Sharp 007SH (Android Flip) The Hybrid

**klanse** · 05-20-2011, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by MNX1024

There's always hope since it's Android

. I hope......

As far as I remember they locked something, which makes it very hard to unlocked it........

**vaiol123** · 05-20-2011, 07:37 PM

Unless they pull a samsung and include the unlock code in the efs folder, it won't be unlocked :P

**martindesu** · 05-20-2011, 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by Yttrasil

Wait wait wait, just what with this phone is better/cooler than tha sh-10c? What does it have and the other not, except worse design??

PC mail, Android Market Place, smart phone UI, proper touchscreen (i.e. fast with no lag)...

Not sure if you're aware, but the world is going bonkers for having apps on phones these days. Having a standard keitai doesn't cut it so well... even in Japan. Lots of people here are saying their next phones will be smart phones. They don't want to get left behind and would quite like apps and proper internet browsing.

**yamanote** · 05-20-2011, 11:13 PM

Originally Posted by klanse

Very little chance of getting it unlocked...

Why wouldn't a hypersim unlock it? Did they do something special this time 'round?

Software unlock is unlikely but a hypersim has always worked so...?

GPS and Internet will work obviously since it's got Google Maps and you can always edit the APN.

**eddieroolz** · 05-21-2011, 01:29 AM

Originally Posted by martindesu

Having a standard keitai doesn't cut it so well... even in Japan. Lots of people here are saying their next phones will be smart phones. They don't want to get left behind and would quite like apps and proper internet browsing.

Interestingly, last I read 87% or something of users (all ages, all genders) said they'd rather stick with a keitai instead. Lost the source, but it made me breath slightly in relief.

**klanse** · 05-21-2011, 01:40 AM

Originally Posted by yamanote

Why wouldn't a hypersim unlock it? Did they do something special this time 'round?

Software unlock is unlikely but a hypersim has always worked so...?

GPS and Internet will work obviously since it's got Google Maps and you can always edit the APN.

I am talking about Software unlock

**yamanote** · 05-21-2011, 03:03 AM

Originally Posted by Yttrasil

Wait wait wait, just what with this phone is better/cooler than tha sh-10c? What does it have and the other not, except worse design??

One is a smartphone with some decent hardware (by smartphone standards) running full Android and one is a 'classic' keitai.

They're for two completely different markets. One is for people who want a smartphone in the shell of a keitai, and one is a keitai.
If you're considering a SH-10C you're unlikely to be considering this, and if you're considering a 007SH you're definitely not going to consider a SH-10C.

Originally Posted by klanse

I am talking about Software unlock

Haha okay I see then.

You're better off with a docomo if you want a sw/factory unlock.

**Yttrasil** · 05-21-2011, 04:02 AM

Oh ok, i thought the sh10c was running full andriod except that maybe the specific android market wasn't working but the other ones were. That explains it and why the phone is pretty awesome

**yamanote** · 05-21-2011, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by Yttrasil

Oh ok, i thought the sh10c was running full andriod except that maybe the specific android market wasn't working but the other ones were. That explains it and why the phone is pretty awesome

It's like saying a Mercedes S-Class is better than a C-Class. It is, obviously, and they're similar since they both have doors and wheels, but they're for different markets- one for the high-end luxury (power user) market and one for the average Joe (ie regular users of keitais who prefer a simpler OS).

**martindesu** · 05-22-2011, 03:17 AM

Originally Posted by Yttrasil

Oh ok, i thought the sh10c was running full andriod except that maybe the specific android market wasn't working but the other ones were. That explains it and why the phone is pretty awesome

Yeah the SH-10C is running standard docomo os.

**tokyo_dom** · 05-23-2011, 02:36 AM

Originally Posted by yamanote

It's like saying a Mercedes S-Class is better than a C-Class. It is, obviously, and they're similar since they both have doors and wheels, but they're for different markets- one for the high-end luxury (power user) market and one for the average Joe (ie regular users of keitais who prefer a simpler OS).

The problem with that analogy is that i'd say 90% of C class owners would rather be in an S class! (it may work in Japan though)
I would have thought a better comparison would be a Porsche Cayene (007SH) vs a stripped out race car (SH10C)

One is ugly, but it is still fast, can go virtually anywhere, and has lots of useful features
The other is very good looking, much faster, but being a race car isnt very useful and there are lots of places it cant go :P

People who have race cars usually have a second car for a daily driver

Oh and back on topic, i just read somewhere on 2CH that the 007SH is planned to have an 840mah battery. If that pans out, then that pretty much kills the chances of this phone succeeding. For android that is laughable and you would be hardpressed to last until the afternoon without requiring a recharge

**yamanote** · 05-23-2011, 04:30 AM

Originally Posted by tokyo_dom

The problem with that analogy is that i'd say 90% of C class owners would rather be in an S class! (it may work in Japan though)
I would have thought a better comparison would be a Porsche Cayene (007SH) vs a stripped out race car (SH10C)

One is ugly, but it is still fast, can go virtually anywhere, and has lots of useful features
The other is very good looking, much faster, but being a race car isnt very useful and there are lots of places it cant go :P

People who have race cars usually have a second car for a daily driver

Oh and back on topic, i just read somewhere on 2CH that the 007SH is planned to have an 840mah battery. If that pans out, then that pretty much kills the chances of this phone succeeding. For android that is laughable and you would be hardpressed to last until the afternoon without requiring a recharge

Fair enough

If the battery is that tiny, and with my kinda usage, I'd say it goes for around 3 or 4 hours before requiring a recharge. Let's see... 2~3 spare batteries? No thanks

**raiden_t** · 05-23-2011, 04:30 AM

@Martin you've become a mod? lol

This phone has got me excited about Sharp phones again, I was considering upgrading to the galaxy S II but now I will wait and see lol.

**yamanote** · 05-23-2011, 04:34 AM

Originally Posted by raiden_t

@Martin you've become a mod? lol

This phone has got me excited about Sharp phones again, I was considering upgrading to the galaxy S II but now I will wait and see lol.

Me too, but the pathetic battery life killed it for me

Shame about the last-gen hardware too. Argh.