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    Apple and Nokia patent suit over

    Apple will be paying Nokia for patent licenses. Not too shocking of an outcome.

    http://techcrunch.com/2011/06/14/app...ees-to-pay-up/
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    WOAH! Nokia gets a continuous cashflow that rides on the success if iPhones = BONUS!!

    RIM could only hope for this kind of goodness.
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    Oh wait, isn't Mapple the company who's "all the time innovating"?....ROFL

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    I don't expect they would be paying much.

    First of all, the ITC didn't exactly find Apple violating most of the patents.

    Second, the suit was instigated by the previous Nokia CEO, not the current one. Quite likely Elop didn't have the stomach to continue this one, especially with the lawyer fees and all.

    Third, I believe Nokia offered a way for Apple to settle. Probably involving cross licensing. So Apple got something out of it after all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenrry View Post
    Oh wait, isn't Mapple the company who's "all the time innovating"?....ROFL
    Do you even understand what Apple and Nokia were disputing? It's patents. Nokia's been in the phone game for a lot longer, and the simplest of patents can remain relevant for future innovations. Apple didn't invent the phone, but they did screw up the smartphone industry like no one else could before. Ever wonder why we see more iPhone imitations and Android-wannabe-iOS skins from Samsung than we do about Meego or Ovi?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drillbit View Post
    I don't expect they would be paying much.
    From what I have heard, it is $715M cash lump payment plus 1% of revenue from iPhone/iPad going forward. This is a large sum for Nokia.

    There wasn't cross licensing because Nokia has core GSM/WIFI patents that are part of the standards for both technologies.
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    If you look at the early legal filings with the ITC, Apple wasn't necessarily say they weren't infringing on the patents. Their primary argument was that Nokia was asking way too onerous of a licensing fee for their patents so their only choice at the time was to fight it out in the courts.

    Apparently, that has now changed.

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    Nokia seem to need the cash, and Apple have more money than some countries put together so its all good either way lol, wonder if Nokia will make more money on iPhones than their upcoming WP phones?
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    How I wish Apple had gone to Nokia for cell reception tech to begin with. I finally (as did many others) had to give up on Nokia. Now with my first iphone, I miss the reception all my Nokia's had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdart View Post
    How I wish Apple had gone to Nokia for cell reception tech to begin with. I finally (as did many others) had to give up on Nokia. Now with my first iphone, I miss the reception all my Nokia's had.
    Apple has been building a very impressive antenna and RF staff. Several PhD antenna engineers I know from Motorola and other places have been hired at Apple in the last 18 or so months. I expect the next redesign to finally be the first iPhone with good RF signal quality.

    So far all the phones have been relatively poor in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mandrsn1 View Post
    Apple has been building a very impressive antenna and RF staff. Several PhD antenna engineers I know from Motorola and other places have been hired at Apple in the last 18 or so months. I expect the next redesign to finally be the first iPhone with good RF signal quality.

    So far all the phones have been relatively poor in my opinion.
    But doesn't everyone on AT&T (at least the ones here on these boards) always complain that their reception on AT&T is terrible? I know on Rogers, every single phone I have ever owned (including my iPhone) has had superb reception.

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    You just cannot make generations about reception. Different places, different devices. ATT is in fact crap in some places. Sometimes it's not their fault. They have license & spectrum, but the NIMBYs and tin foil hat folks fight them tooth and nail. I must have a MIcrocell at home, I doubt my area will ever get a better located tower. There is just no way the crazies will allow it. I for one do not think cell towers and placement should be a local control issue. The FCC & the carriers should work out how and where towers need to be. Only then, presented as a given, should locals have input. Their input should be limited to aesthetics alone.

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