Smartphones on new $50 unlimited everything plan including data. Which ones work?

[efparri]

Found what phone, in what bar? What are you talking about?

As for paying AT&T $50 per month which increases their revenue to use a plan that they have structured their system for paying customers to use, how is that taking advantage of a shortcoming. Let's do the math:

AT&T +$50
Customer -$50

The reply was to the moderator. There is a thread in the Apple Forum about someone who found an iPhone 3GS. The advice given was that one should not use something not lawfully obtained. There is a parallel in this thread. The impression given is that it is alright to steal from a large corporation but not alright to steal from an individual.

[Cuser]

Just activated my AT&T branded HTC Inspire 4G.....When I select the MEdia Net APN it says connection failed due to incorrect APN setting.

So, I set up a new APN on the wap.cingular APN. Data is slow, about 0.14 Mbps down.

These are the settings I used:

Name: AT&T
APN: wap.cingular
proxy: none
port: none
username: wap@cingulargprs.com
password: CINGULAR1 (case sensitive)
Server: none
MMSC: http://mmsc.cingular.com
MMS Proxy: wireless.cingular.com
MMS Port: 80
MCC: 310
MNC: 410
APN Type: none

Maybe I didn't set the phone up right.... I got the $50 plan plus $15 for 100Mbs per month.

If this is true, then there is no point of this plan if we get throttled to 0.10 Mbps.
Someone else post speedtests using an unlocked android phone on the $50 plan. Maybe location too.

[jet1000]

The advice given was that one should not use something not lawfully obtained.

Not lawfully obtained? You have failed completely in showing that using a smartphone on the $50 plan with the included data is illegal. There is no law prohibiting this. As I posted, there are not even any consequences in AT&T's terms and conditions aside from them switching you to a different plan. AT&T doesn't threaten to cancel your plan or threaten to report you the authorities or anything.

Again, the question which is what you have failed to answer, if AT&T does not care, why should you??

[efparri]

As I stated earlier, it is too early to know whether AT&T cares or not. It would be a shame that the infant is killed in the crib because of misuse of the data plan.

[offthegrid]

Has anyone put a Bell Mobility Android or iPhone on this yet?


Using one of those phones makes this possibly a better deal than StraightTalk. No $170 paperweight. Customer service in English. About the same price. The free operator assisted 411 is a ST perk though.

[Cuser]

Has anyone put a Bell Mobility Android or iPhone on this yet?


Using one of those phones makes this possibly a better deal than StraightTalk. No $170 paperweight. Customer service in English. About the same price. The free operator assisted 411 is a ST perk though.

The Bell android phones will/should work. People have tested a few international/nonATT android phones to work. Not sure about the iPhone. The only thing that is still unresolved is the 3g data speeds. Straight talk will give you HSPA speed I think.

I am really considering this deal, if I can get full 3g speed and not throttled 0.20 mbps.

[Pabster]

The Bell android phones will/should work. People have tested a few international/nonATT android phones to work. Not sure about the iPhone. The only thing that is still unresolved is the 3g data speeds. Straight talk will give you HSPA speed I think.

You'll get higher speeds on ST but remember you are breaking the ToS and subject to disconnection at any time. GoPhone is throttled all the time in my experience, it's still fast enough IMHO. It's your call.

[efparri]

Not lawfully obtained? You have failed completely in showing that using a smartphone on the $50 plan with the included data is illegal. There is no law prohibiting this. As I posted, there are not even any consequences in AT&T's terms and conditions aside from them switching you to a different plan. AT&T doesn't threaten to cancel your plan or threaten to report you the authorities or anything.

Again, the question which is what you have failed to answer, if AT&T does not care, why should you??

Theft is a crime in every state in the United States. Prosecution is handled by the local law enforcement agencies and not by the victim of the crime. The victim is only a witness.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theft

[Cuser]

You'll get higher speeds on ST but remember you are breaking the ToS and subject to disconnection at any time. GoPhone is throttled all the time in my experience, it's still fast enough IMHO. It's your call.

What is the speed its throttled to?

[fonezfonz]

Anyway, keep posting what smartphones do and do not work with data on the new $50 feature phone talk/text/data unlimited plan. Do not post if you are adding on a data package.

And post data speeds download/upload if you can.

If it's throttled badly, might as well use Tmobile's plan. At least they allow all phones even on EDGE only.

Keep posting though. Inquiring minds want to know. List make/model/carrier of phone and did you activate directly or swap a sim from a feature phone?

[Pabster]

What is the speed its throttled to?

Varies by tower/area but in my experience 3G averages 300Kbps with about 500Kbps tops. EDGE is throttled too around 100-130Kbps from my testing.

It's fast enough for my use but most definitely not the same experience regular customers receive (or ST for that matter...)

[Pabster]

If it's throttled badly, might as well use Tmobile's plan. At least they allow all phones even on EDGE only.

One little caveat - at least 3G allows simultaneous voice/data, not possible on EDGE (AT&T or T-Mobile). Also I've found the 3G fast enough - about 3X faster than AT&T's own EDGE, even on GoPhone. I also find 3G easier on the battery (iPhone) than EDGE on either carrier. YMMV.

[Antenna]

Cheating the carrier? Ask yourself, why is AT&T so incompetent that they can not block the smartphones? I already posted a link that shows they have access to a data base with all of the IMEI numbers. Are their engineers not bright enough to compare an IMEI number of a device being used with a list? AT&T won't get "cheated" one dime if they just do their job and set up a system that matches their marketing statement.

Earlier in this thread (post #30) you were saying that posting the devices that worked would close the loophole. Well if you're so confident that they'll close the loophole, then you wouldn't worry about the "misuse of these forums" for "cheating the carrier". Perhaps you don't believe that AT&T will do what you predicted they would??

Glad to see you dub AT&T incompetent alongside T-Mobile..."Two turkeys don't make an eagle "

I digress.... Anyone try a Moto Milestone NAM with this plan? It will likely work. Yall should consult the MediaNet people since its the same system....

Sent from my HTC Incredible S

[aka414]

Theft is a crime in every state in the United States. Prosecution is handled by the local law enforcement agencies and not by the victim of the crime. The victim is only a witness.

I wonder if you share this same rationale with being charged $25 for 500MB versus the 2 gig postpaid. In addition, having our speeds severely throttled to about 1/6th that of postpaid.

How about AT&T locking my iphone that I have purchased and paid out? How about AT&T snapping up the only GSM/WCDMA competitor (Tmobile), meaning we are stuck with dude phones if we do not use them?

[Pabster]

I don't condone theft of services. But I'm always amazed at folks who are more concerned with the welfare of a multi-billion dollar international company over a regular Joe. Never can quite understand it...