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Thread: The GooMoto Thread! Where does Moto go now that it will be part of Google?

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    Apparently he doesn't have a background as executioner. But does want his own show.

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    All for it. Do hope you're right.
    But I still say it'll take some class-act birling not to get soaked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TC_Mits View Post
    Just for the sake of argument...
    How do we know Woodside isn't tasked to do the rough grinding and dent pulling plus the bondo and paint work before trucking the old lemon to auction?

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    We don't, but he could have easily done that as a Google employee with authority over most all of Sanjay Jha's decision making I would think. I don't think they had any lack of respect for Jha as CEO so much as they have plans for Motorola that are GOOGLE PLANS to be done by Google picked people. It wasn't just Woodside it was a specially selected team of a few executives that I doubt were picked because they are seen better at making Moto more valuable so much as they see them as the best choices to act out some vision Google has for Moto as part of Google.

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    Again, playing Reeves to your Pacino, woulda been a lot to expect of Jha to slaughter and dress The Yearling. Better to send in your own butcher?

    I really hope Google does have the necessaries to wade in bare knuckles and duke it out with MS and the fruit pickers, but I remain skeptical...


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    Quote Originally Posted by TC_Mits View Post
    Again, playing Reeves to your Pacino, woulda been a lot to expect of Jha to slaughter and dress The Yearling. Better to send in your own butcher?

    I really hope Google does have the necessaries to wade in bare knuckles and duke it out with MS and the fruit pickers, but I remain skeptical...


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    Possible, but just find it unlikely.

    If I saw Google pushing really hard right now to use YouTube to really challenge the CBS, NBC, ABC, and FOX's of the world I would have a different take on their strategy. I really think they understand they have to dominate Apple and MS first, then push the IP providers where they want them and then finally you go after those who are in reality your biggest competitors when it comes to where your revenues are coming from.

    People hate advertisers and advertising, but the reality is people WILL choose it over pay to play models from here to eternity. Do you ever see the superbowl moving to ESPN, HBO, or some other pay to watch network?? Doubtful, but I could see it hosted by a Google or Yahoo someday. And I could see even the AT&T and Verizon's getting squeezed someday as an entity like Google moves to operate more like CBS, NBC, ABC, and FOX with free over the air internet drawing revenue mostly from advertising.

    Convergence WILL happen, even though it's kinda been forgotten and rarely talked about now as much as it was 10-20 years back, but it's going to take an entity like Google to make it happen as Apple and MS aren't going that direction so much as playing their corners. Google will have to play every corner if if convergence is part of their vision though.

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    Always enlightening to tease out more of your vision.

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    Hah! I can have a vision however grandiose I please as I don't have to take any risks or bear responsibility for them when it comes to executing that vision! Sometime wonder if Google really gets what they should be in the market though, so am happy to throw my opinion on that out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveanderson13 View Post
    Interesting. He's an Ad sales guy for Google. Much more clear why our local insider is happy now. Doesn't really clue us in to the long term goals Google has for Moto though and whether they really are to be part of Google or not.

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    Intriguing. Looks like a step in the right direction. The Woodside bio is reassuring.
    Thanks, Steve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasaero View Post
    Much more clear why our local insider is happy now. Doesn't really clue us in to the long term goals Google has for Moto though and whether they really are to be part of Google or not.
    And the local insider is....?

    More clues:

    http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/...torola-google/

    but it seems neither Woodside nor Google needed Moto just to further advertising. It also mentions the hiring of Regina Duncan from DARPA.

    An article I cant find mentioned the importance of the set top boxes at Moto.

    One line I think was of major importance was that one of Woodside's previous responsibilities was managing partnerships.

    Seems they are trying to put a lot of stuff together. If they can create and maintain synergies and momentum, not alienate nor backstab, seems they can do a lot.

    Larry can sit on it.

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    Now for the pessimist side:

    http://www.technewsworld.com/story/75182.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveanderson13 View Post
    And the local insider is....?

    More clues:

    http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/...torola-google/

    but it seems neither Woodside nor Google needed Moto just to further advertising. It also mentions the hiring of Regina Duncan from DARPA.

    An article I cant find mentioned the importance of the set top boxes at Moto.

    One line I think was of major importance was that one of Woodside's previous responsibilities was managing partnerships.

    Seems they are trying to put a lot of stuff together. If they can create and maintain synergies and momentum, not alienate nor backstab, seems they can do a lot.

    Larry can sit on it.
    Awesome that author is suggesting my meme that Motorola could be a source of open hardware to go with the open android software. I think it's a genius idea for a company mostly interested in ad revenue and controlling the platform those ads are most successful on, BUT convincing the Moto culture to do such a MASSIVE 180 will be a KILLER task!! At the end of the day though it would infinitely weaken the positions of strong players such as Samsung and Apple if any generic ODM/OEM could pump out extremely competitive devices with little to no research/development/innovation efforts that would be gettting done by Google.

    I still say this is the way to go if you want to someday dominate the sorts that now feed us the Super Bowl with mostly only ad generated revenues and marginalize networks reliant on direct subscriber revenues with that same ad model. With payment headed to the mobile I really think the possibilities are endless for a ad revenue oriented firm. And the way marketing and advertising can work in the internet age really can be good for everyone as it has the potential to take out middle men such as cable companies and wireless networks and replace them with systems built on ad revenues generated by all variety of companies looking for those networks users business rather than the network users paying.

    At the end of the day if Google plays their cards correctly, they should be the most feared company in the world, unless you sell something VERY tangible and want to do business with someone like google to help you sell it. We as a society consume SO MANY things for SO MANY different reasons that there is really no good reason those wanting to provide us something to consume couldn't cover a lot of the cost of something like a network connection and innovation of the devices that tie us into it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveanderson13 View Post
    Now for the pessimist side:

    http://www.technewsworld.com/story/75182.html

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    This one is exactly what I was referring to when I pointed out Moto sorts resisting Google wanting to offer open hardware. Moto sees the people these innovations would be handed to as competitors and they are. The thing is Motorola would still be the source of the innovation and one with the most carnal knowledge of all things involved, even if a reference design based on this know how was bandied about to Android licensee's.

    I think in the end Google will need to get Motorola healthy before they start such an integration with the Android team to offer complete device designs including software and hardware. Motorola will not be easy to fix though as I do think they are very capable hardware company, but one that often has a hit they then don't understand how to capitalize on with subsequent generations or deals getting the huge success onto all the networks. We'll see, but there is a lot of validity here in this article also. This is a very risky move.

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