Verizon's lineup, they wanted it out later because of the launches in Q4 and the success of the D3.Originally Posted by jo_Ny
Uh, no comment.
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My screen is bigger than yours
I actually bought the nexus from Costco (that I eventually returned). I didn't realize that they won't take my new every two until after I was almost done with with the paper work.
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Verizon's lineup, they wanted it out later because of the launches in Q4 and the success of the D3.
Uh, no comment.
Phone Collector
Okay that was too long so I cut it down. I could spend time figuring out your issue, but instead I'll just give you my first thought.
This will seem weird, but different manufacturer's designate the bands on the 3.5MM jack differently. Seriously.
Apple iPhone goes like this:
sleeve- MIC
Ring2- GND
Ring1- R
Tip- L
And some Blackberries use:
sleeve- GND
Ring2- R
Ring1- L
Tip- Control
In case you care, the "standard" (not really, just most common) is for a headset in this configuration:
sleeve- GND
Ring2- GND
Ring1- R
Tip- L
Anyway, you just may have a conflict there.
Oh, and in my experience I haven't had any issues with Motorola phones and my headsets. I use a Bluetooth headset though for calls.
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Only if you believe the hype of the other phones.
No. Not even close.
Summer; who cares because it isn't a good part; and very late in the year.
And someday people may learn to stop counting cores. Honestly, Dual core is better for a mobile phone in just about every way except for one very, very important one. Marketing. Quad core sounds better than Dual core.
I've got more phones than fingers
Susurro, anything interesting in the pipeline for this year or next? And I dont mean bigger, faster, etc. Imo, the Note is the most interesting thing emerging; for the functionality which is largely due to size, I know.
Phone fan
I read the Phone Scoop article about the D4 getting an update to enable it's global capabilities. The blurb sounded fairly vague and the rep's quote could have been misinterpreted. It could just be phones after the D4 will be global.
My next phone needs to be global. For those in the know, what are the chances that this global update will show up?
I have a blue tooth
I always thought it was that the combined CDMA/LTE/GSM radio chips will not be in production until 3Q or 4Q, was the hold up for Global/World phones? If it is truly that LTE is currently network-wise incompatible with GSM, what's AT&T doing?
I also thought it was interesting that their leak, uses the term "non-CDMA" instead of "GSM".
I've got more phones than fingers
While I agree with most of what susurro said, I have one key point to disagree on... modems with 28nm processes will make battery life much better on LTE where it is a large concern at the present time. The fact that Google Navigation and LTE can draw out power faster than can be gained back while connected to a car charger is a sign that LTE chipsets still draw too much power. Specifally, the MDM9615 will be a very welcome addition.
Now I do agree on dual core and quad core... the lack of graphic acceleration is a big reason why Android needs these types of chipsets. Meanwhile you have Windows Phones and the iPhone 4 (the last generation of iPhone) that runs very smoothly on a single core.
It is high time for Google to rewrite the core of Android for graphic acceleration along with a new programming language along with better app support in HTML5.
Fiber backhaul for Verizon in Southern Illinois in 2013 - about time.
I've climbed a cellphone tower
No need to believe any hype. For me and I am sure MANY others, if it runs really slick and has a BIG NICE screen and STILL fits in our hand comfortably, it's a really nice device. After using a phone with a 4.65" screen and watching movies and such and still feeling the screen doesn't make the phone TOO big for me or even MOST, that's now the expectation. This is particularly true after holding something like the RAZR with an obviously smaller screen yet the device SEEMED much larger and less comfortable in the hand, DESPITE the thinness. This nuanced, it just feels right aspect, that comes from the Galaxy Nexus design and Android 4.0 is really why me and MANY others waited for it over other phones that were pushed out first. We had to see if that aspect was there and it really was I think.
Not sure this really gets to the point. I waited from about summer last year for the proper dual core LTE phone to hit for me to finally use my upgrade and used it a GOOD few months after it was originally available. I did this because I was pretty sure devices like that RAZR and Galaxy Nexus would be a good bit ahead of something like the Bionic that woulda been big jump if it had launched when originally planned. If I hadn't already been out of my contract for several months and was more just coming out around the end of year or early this year timeframe I would OBVIOUSLY be waiting for phones with next generation processors. It's sounding like Qualcomm will be the first to get 28nm stuff on the ground, but something like Tegra3 really is interesting to a power user or someone that wants to game. But really if my upgrade was just coming available in the next few months, I am waiting for 28nm chips with next gen designs pure and simple. Waited from July availability to December for the Galaxy Nexus.
What isn't a good part? Not sure I get your point as I was pointing out 3 next gen processors that could hit this year in devices. Pointed out above I and probably many are willing to wait half a year or more from when they get a subsidy to use it on the RIGHT device.
I can't really disagree with this 100%, but at the same time this really is the broader approach to more computing power as we move to smaller and smaller circuits. And really for computing power to scale really well without killing light use power draw I think having more cores and more multithreaded apps is going to be the best way forward in both the mobile and every other computing space. Also your point STILL ignores the use model Motorola themselves and Asus are touting the hardest where we go away from multiple mobile devices and just have a smartphone that can power different device configs that are really just peripherals that look like a notebook or tablet. Sure it's hard to really need lots of multitasking and mulithreaded junk going on with a smartphone where use is more fleeting, but if it's supposed to power a peripheral intended to allow more serious tasks to be done it will need some way to get there. Of course Moto's solution to all this really has ignored actually more serious work through this peripheral to this point anyhow as it's mostly just a browser on a bigger screen with keyboard and trackpad. That misses the point of such a peripheral entirely though.
Mobile Pro
I really hope not. I don't want a 5" screen or something that can do 99% of what my laptop can do. I want something portable, with long battery life, that can handle all my communications - because that is the goal of a phone. It is not supposed to replace a tablet or a laptop. Because even a 5" screen is not big enough to do that. Plus, the bigger the screen, the more battery it takes up.
I am perfectly happy with my OG Droid's screen size. It is fairly comfortable when making calls, and I can write e-mails, texts, etc... Yet it is very portable. I can use it for my calendar, todo list, etc. And it fills in for a browser when I need it to. I have never thought "I really need more space for this app" except for the browser, and that's last on the list of my priorities. And yes, I love various apps on my tablet's 10" screen, but the goal of my phone is portability. The major websites I need have pretty good apps, so I have no issues.
Your definition of "power user" is the person who buys all the latest gadgets and doesn't do much with them. My definition is someone who uses their phone heavily for its purpose.
I've climbed a cellphone tower
No, I don't want a tablet or laptop 99% of the time. The problem is with a screen in the 3.5~4"+ region I feel as if I need more when browsing the web. My Galaxy Nexus with HD resolution and 4.65" screen gets me REALLY close the vibe the screen is big enough for most web pages, yet is still not where near what I would call a pocket limited size for me. I want more in summary. Really I think a Galaxy Note type device with slide out keyboard would get me to that "I don't need a tablet or notebook 99% of the time" point. I'm at maybe 80% with the galaxy nexus and was at maybe 40% with the OG Droid. And it's not all screen size and resolution as performance makes up some of it, but the screen is most of it.
And really in the end what you are after could always be a more value oriented device as smaller screen and battery and all the rest should translate into lower production costs when both devices are already going to need pretty crammed designs regardless. Not like we are talking moving to a notebook or desktop tower where a lot of costs related to specialized things for miniaturization go away from one device to the next. I see no reason a Droid2 or Droid4 sorta device couldn't sell right next to a device more like I want and Moto could still reduce their product offering down to 4 devices overall. Have a smaller more portable oriented value device and a larger more broad use but less portable for more cash for those like me. Then have slate and keyboarded versions of each. Wipe out all the nonsense looking like old blackberries and really cheap toy like phones with slight difference to the rest. Maybe go with 6 if they just really need to offer extreme value options with and without keyboard. They probably have 15 somewhat unique devices as it stands now. I would refuse to make special device designs and brandings for different carriers and just make 4-6 devices with unique Moto brand identities that need to be used by the carriers. You could even say 2-3 brands with a pro nomenclature or something to identify the keyboarded one as samsung almost did, but then never really followed through on with carrier wins or the second generation of Galaxy.
My power user definition is more someone that exploits a smartphone to the point they do as much with it as they do ANY OTHER DEVICE they own. It's intended purpose is to replace as many devices as possible so one rarely EVER NEEDS another device with them. This includes cameras as much as tablets and notebooks. A smartphone should strive to replace your camera, laptop, desktop, camcorder, tablet, TV, DVD, Wallet, and Various other things. To me it's intended purpose is to replace every device I own and give me a near equivalent that sits in my pocket next to my Victorinix Swiss Army Champion Plus or Leatherman everywhere I go.
I've got more phones than fingers
I sure am getting a lot of press :>o
Anyone with real interest can look back at my New Years day post.
The naysayers don't seem to be saying much else...
"AM SO!!"
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I've got more phones than fingers
Plesae do all of those things and get back with me on how well your battery holds up. I still carry a separate camera because camera and video functions on any phone I've ever tried them on sucked the battery dry quick, and having a phone without juice is my worst nightmare since I truly need it for the *intended purpose* of making phone calls.
The e-mail functionality was something I accepted back when I first tried the BlackBerry -- it spoiled me. Using e-mail and text messaging on BlackBerrys of years gone by had no significant draw on the battery so it was a win-win situation. I think I usually got 3 to 4 days out of a BlackBerry with heavy e-mail use. Not sure what I could be doing that I couldn't make my way back to a charger within 3 days. On today's 4G phones, they're rated in hours and not days unfortunately. They virtually require a charger in every car and at the home and office to keep topped-up all the time. Since I don't drive a car and use it routinely at my home office, my battery has to last me long hours off the cable and certainly the entire time I'm out of the house. If I'm exhausted and forget to plug it in at night, I don't want to fear the thing being useless the following morning.
--Kidd
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Since two people missed what I wrote I will be clearer...
QCM S4- Summer
Tegra3- who cares because it isn't a good part
OMAP5- very late in the year
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Well both the Bionic and RAZR had chipsets that support LTE, CDMA, and HSPA (GSM). Verizon had the HSPA disabled.
The chipsets are actually (and this is public through teardowns) LTE chip from Motorola and CDMA/HSPA from Qualcomm.
LTE is compatible with HSPA and GSM. Doesn't AT&T have LTE phones on the market already? LTE has more issues with WLAN, or more exactly WLAN has major probelms when LTE is present.
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