a phone for $250 seems pretty premium to me - far from a value phone
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I've climbed a cellphone tower
Yep. Another "Value" QWERTY slider. I want a "Premium" power user QWERTY slider with larger better screen and replaceable with humpback extended battery option. Shoot if it were a VERY "Premium" QWERTY slider with $350 price I might go for it. I am going on a month with my Galaxy Nexus and love it, but would go back to a QWERTY phone in a heart beat if a device with it's screen size and quality magically appeared.Originally Posted by jo_Ny
Phone Collector
a phone for $250 seems pretty premium to me - far from a value phone
I have a blue tooth
That's his view because he had to shell out $300 for his Samsung tablet-want-to-be.
I've climbed a cellphone tower
I suppose "midrange" LTE is the most technically accurate. My real point is that pricing suggests they understand its not as desirable phone as the more premium priced ones. I am a HUGE QWERTY fan, but this phone lacks enough from a desirability standpoint compared to my GNex price is the only thing that might get me into it. I would consider the 250 steep even though with an $200 HD nonpentile larger screened option going uo against it. I want a QWERTY phone so desirable people who dont like the added thickness you get with qwerty are still salivating for the phone just cause its so much nicer than anything else at the moment. A true halo phone ala RAZR that happens to be qwert and not RAZR thin, but every bit as desirable do to feel in hand and wow factor of screen quality and size.
I am all for a REAL tablet wanna be in a 5-7" size with phone and qwerty at $400-500 subsidized. That sorta device would prolly be built for me alone though as I am probably about the only one that would really want such a device.
I've climbed a cellphone tower
LTE, 1.2 GHz dual core CPU, 1 GB RAM and 1080p video recording. If that's not premium, I don't know what is.
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I've climbed a cellphone tower
HD nonpentile IPS screen with most the rest equivalent for $50 bucks less is why it's not premium. I could really care less what all those specs are if the phone runs fast and does everything I want. What makes it premium is the display being used, ergonomics of how the device is built around that screen and maybe the build to some degree. Making something 7mm thin, but still seemingly being a WAY bigger phone than a slightly thicker phone with a bigger screen is just WRONG. There is ZERO reason a 4.5-5" HD Screen QWERTY slider that doesn't feel huge when being used many can't happen while also being a device people that don't really NEED or even WANT a QWERTY keyboard would also desire more than other similar nonQwerty phones. The Rezound and Galaxy Nexus are proof of this already in my opinion. They are EXTREMELY well received phones while technically from a specs(thinness in particular) and build and premium content standpoint one would expect the RAZR to be the hot item rather than them. In the end I believe A LOT of how premium a smartphone seems to most ends up getting derived from the screen more than anything. I am sure the Droid4's is NICE, but I just doubt it will really compare the Galaxy Nexus or even this new $200 LG. It's going to be a good bit smaller and just not as sharp, yet the device is seemingly plenty large to have a more equivalent display size and resolution. Add to that the lack of a battery solution that will make power users happy and it's just NOT a premium phone that a power user seeks. Yet I think most power users that tend to be the ones seeking out the most premium phones would like a good physical keyboard and not be too concerned with thickness.
This to me is a phone for the set that used to buy messenger variety QWERTY phones to do lots of chatting, but are now more able to afford a data package and expand beyond sending lots of SMS's into the smartphone world and figure they may as well do the LTE thing if they are going to be upping to a data package. Not that these are the only people interested so much as these are going to be the only one REALLY desiring it as I think people that have tried a variety of smartphones, including some of the latest already, are only going to be settling because they just want to get a nice qwerty again. I REALLY want a nice qwerty again, but I just can't give up my big 4.65" HD screen and removable battery.
My screen is bigger than yours
Phone Collector
Word has just come out on PhoneScoop and Phandroid that the Droid 4 (along with the LG Sepctrum) will have global GSM capability that will be turned on later this year once they work out a "network issue".
My mom bought me this phone
But, the question is, will someone who buys this phone unlocked be able to put a 3G ATT sim card in and get full voice and data service on a GSM network?
Anyone have any input?
My screen is bigger than yours
You won't be able to buy the Verizon version unlocked. From the sound of things, right off the bat GSM SIM cards will not be supported at all. If PhoneScoop's article is correct and the capability is enabled in the future, even if you buy it without a contract, it will be locked out of the box to Verizon's partners. Additionally, Verizon has the AT&T and/or T-Mobile bands on nearly all of their U.S. exclusive global phones completely locked out from use (Motorola Droid phones in particular), even once the SIM slot is unlocked.
So, unless Verizon makes drastic changes this time around, you won't be able to use it on AT&T at all.
Motorola generally releases international versions of many Droid phones that will support AT&T 3G, so you'll probably have to wait for that.
Phone Collector
I kind of expected to find this thread to be longer, but no matter. This phone is sweet, the keyboard is unreal. Just wait until you can check it out before discussing if it is "value" or "premium", don't worry it is a short wait now.
You will be amazed how nice this phone feels, makes the Droid3 feel like a brick.
My mom bought me this phone
I figured as much. Although, if the boot loader is unlocked (wishful thinking), maybe I can get one before the international version becomes available.
Phone Collector
Susurro can you share what was the reason for the postponement?
By the way would you like to comment on the statements from Mr Sanjay Jha that Moto will be releasing fewer products this year but pushing them more? I find this an interesting shift as long as the fewer presented products are solid ones. What are your thoughts on the partnership with Intel?
Phone fan
I apologize up front that this post will have too much about the Galaxy Nexus, but my real question is about how the Droid 4 will perform, so here goes...
I am very much looking forward to getting the D4, but I need to make sure it will work with my wonderful Bose headphones plugged in. I'm coming from a blackberry previously and my cell phone is first and foremost my WORK PHONE so I'm on it a good portion of every work day, often with clients, so the call functionality and headset functionality is CRITICAL. On the blackberry, I had no problems with how the phone worked with a headset. I have a Galaxy Nexus that I want to return this weekend in hopes that the D4 will be out within a short window. The Nexus is my first Android phone (sorry to admit it!) and it has plagued me with several problems when using a headset during calls.
It crackles and pops painfully in my ears at various times including when I hang up a call, I can't get into conference bridges if I have the headset plugged in because when I dial in the passcode it doubles the numbers I have entered, using the headset causes intermittent echoing and call quality issues, the volume sometimes shifts from left to right ear bud (or vice versa) during a call, etc. It's honestly as if they never even tested headphone capability on this phone. I see posts out there on the issue logs so I know others are experiencing these types of problems and it's not just me. I don't know whether these things are hardware or software related and frankly, I'm starting to wonder if I should be nervous about Android phones in general for my heavy business call needs.
The question is... what is the reputation -- or better yet your experience -- with Motorola phones for this type of thing? Or Samsung -- is Samsung known for having poor headset functionality? I will be in a world of pain if I get the Droid 4 and it turns out to have these types of problems. Does anyone know from their RAZR or other similar Motorola phones whether this type of problem will occur? Does anyone who has used the Droid 4 have any knowledge specifically about this for the Droid 4?
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My experience with my Droid 2 is that the sound quality is excellent through headphones. I've even used it with my high-end Sennheiser headphones during some long telecons, and I didn't notice any problem at all with noise.
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