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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakota View Post
    re: thoroughness. Pish posh. My one and ONLY point in the posting I made that you quoted is that I don't WANT a phone that would be large enough to accommodate a 5" screen. If I want a tablet, I'll buy a tablet. I don't want a tablet. I want a phone. If the entire front surface of my D2G was consumed with screen (no bezel at all), that would be 4.75" diagonal.
    So, if I understand this correctly, you feel the D4 won't work for you because it is too much wider than your D2 and wide enough to potentially accommodate a 5" display? If that is your point then this is just a matter of personal preference to which you are, of course, entitled.

    I want more than just a phone. Atm, my DX is my primary web connection. I could also use it, with HDMI or without, for a media device including in lieu of an iPod, etc. I use my phone's camera extensively. And I do a lot of text entry and editing, beyond just email and messaging. I keep whole books on my SD card -- most of Shakespeare, as an example. I recently completed a one-month online 'enrichment' course almost entirely from this DX.


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    The existing 3.75" diagonal usable screen size is plenty large for anyone except those that want an entertainment center that also can send texts and post to twitter. I don't. I want a phone that can also access the internet from time to time, and I'm not wanting to pay a plug nickel for a larger screen and the associated larger phone.
    I suppose I would, personally, like my multi-purpose pocket computer ccum communicator to serve also as an entertainment center, yes.. I have mentioned before the idea of viewing .avi movies from SD cards. And I might be happy to pay thousands of real nickles for the privilege of owning a device well-designed for all of those ends.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakota View Post
    Get it? That's the sum total of the "thoroughness" required to make my point. You can analyze-away all you want on all the other mostly pointless issues that get raised in these pre-release threads. Have at it.
    As I stated, my analysis is simply that, whether already "too big" or not, the devices we now carry or covet are big enough to contain meaningfully larger displays -- if that were to become a design priority.

    Yes, I think I "Get it", you and I have different needs and desires. Human diversity is a wonderful thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakota View Post
    A physical keyboard is a natural and useful thing for a smaller screen phone targeted at people who still are more interested in communicating than in firing angry birds and watching the super bowl while driving.
    I like the idea of being able to watch the Superbowl in an airport. I think I'd stop at a coffeehouse or rest area if driving, however.

    As I said above, I view a device like the D4 as far more than just a cellphone. For example, I do a lot of text entry and editing, aside from messaging. If all I wanted was a cellphone, the original LG VX9800, without a data plan (since my 'America's Choice' plan charges data by the minute) would continue to serve all my needs admirably for years to come. It's a little thick for current fashion, but that never bothered me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Susurro View Post
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    Since this is a D4 thread though I will add to please go an feel this phone in your hand. I love this phone, and the keyboard is so much better than the D3 (which I use to love, until the D4).
    As for all those blogs claiming the D4 is a minor update, they got issues. Better mechanicals (keyboard), better display, more RAM, new processor... what were they looking for?
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    At the very start of this thread fone sex emphasizes the same point -- how great the D4 keyboard is. I'm inclined to believe its 'feel' may well be a real improvement over the D3. But the layout is an equally real regression. It's bad. There are many other discussions about the particulars. I'll just note that if the feel of the D4 KB helps you type faster, but its layout breaks your rhythm at every special character the net gain isn't "so much better than the D3".

    I was looking for, essentially, a D3 with LTE and upgraded tech. The D4 is a RAZR with a D3 screen and an add-on keyboard -- NOT what I was looking for.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TC_Mits View Post
    At the very start of this thread fone sex emphasizes the same point -- how great the D4 keyboard is. I'm inclined to believe its 'feel' may well be a real improvement over the D3. But the layout is an equally real regression. It's bad. There are many other discussions about the particulars. I'll just note that if the feel of the D4 KB helps you type faster, but its layout breaks your rhythm at every special character the net gain isn't "so much better than the D3".

    I was looking for, essentially, a D3 with LTE and upgraded tech. The D4 is a RAZR with a D3 screen and an add-on keyboard -- NOT what I was looking for.


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    You are correct, I was referring to the "feel" of the keyboard. As I haven't had a slider in sometime, I can't speak to the impact of the layout change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TC_Mits View Post
    At the very start of this thread fone sex emphasizes the same point -- how great the D4 keyboard is. I'm inclined to believe its 'feel' may well be a real improvement over the D3. But the layout is an equally real regression. It's bad. There are many other discussions about the particulars. I'll just note that if the feel of the D4 KB helps you type faster, but its layout breaks your rhythm at every special character the net gain isn't "so much better than the D3".

    I was looking for, essentially, a D3 with LTE and upgraded tech. The D4 is a RAZR with a D3 screen and an add-on keyboard -- NOT what I was looking for.


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    Anyways, what is the diff in layoyt that causes so much consternation. I have not had the time to get to the store 2play with 1 in person. By the looks of it, it seems that the major diff is the location of certain syms that r now located on the num row alts. It seems that the disadvantage here is that. A few frequent syms are now secondary, but the layput has become more regular and easier to remember in touch typing. I actually like the fact that the 'sym' key is now located at the lower left corner, and that its no longer sharing a key with the space key (which caused me headaches from time to time). Overall ot seems some wins and losses, but I don't see how the layout is significantly worse than that of the d3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HardBall View Post
    Anyways, what is the diff in layoyt that causes so much consternation. I have not had the time to get to the store 2play with 1 in person. By the looks of it, it seems that the major diff is the location of certain syms that r now located on the num row alts. It seems that the disadvantage here is that. A few frequent syms are now secondary, but the layput has become more regular and easier to remember in touch typing. I actually like the fact that the 'sym' key is now located at the lower left corner, and that its no longer sharing a key with the space key (which caused me headaches from time to time). Overall ot seems some wins and losses, but I don't see how the layout is significantly worse than that of the d3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TC_Mits View Post
    http://www.droidforums.net/forum/sho...d.php?t=193699

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    Something like the @ sym is important to any web related activity, so that is indeed a step backwards, and the placement of = key as a primary is a bit befuddling.

    A couple of thing raise r complete non issues. I don't know a single person who ever actually uses the mic key, as if u are dictating, u would not ha e the keyboard open in the first place, I would be ok if they got rid of it completely and replace with an on screen sym, since that is the only time when u would actually need it. The search key is also redundant, as u would have a search key already in the capacitive button, no matter with the slidee open or closed; it should be elimited as it is always redundant, and not that often accesssed in the first place.

    Half of the complaints in that thread are real, the other half is complete nonsense.

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    Point being, feel is reportedly 'great' -- to be seen, soon. Layout is visually confirmed to be 'poorly thought out'. To me, this adds to the impression that, despite all the delays, the D4 was rushed to market. I'll wait a bit; let others tell me which gears aren't meshing.


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