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Pay Your Way + Voip.ms = Free Unlimited Incoming + Cheap Outgoing
I've got more phones than fingers
Not the same. I don't know for some people, but I want people to be able to phone the same number they also use for sending SMS to, which means unlimited incoming is the benefit. I don't want to give out a VOIP or LD provider's DID because I'm not sure how long I will use their service (I have extensive experience with various VoSP, most of them turned bad after a while and I had to switch), and many do not allow porting out, so I can't keep their number. Therefore, having unlimited incoming directly on the cell is not the same having unlimited incoming on the VOIP provider (not to mention that I found no voip provider having free DID and free unlimited internet).Originally Posted by xtachx
Second: Telus is $7. WIND is $0 (but requires min deposit of equiv $6.66 / mo), not to mention extra cost to maintain unl inc at VOIP and also DID cost.
I also have Telus and have used their One Number Unlimited. I never bother to use a third party DISA / DID / VOIP with it. An unlimited calling service is min $5. AFAIK. That makes it $12. already. Might as well pay a 12 month mult-month on Mobilicity, equiv to $16.66 / mo and you get true direct unlimited in and out.
I also don't like extra hop because of extra latency and possible audio quality degradation. Anyway, it's beyond the point, but I think unlimited incoming is not the same as one number unlimited, and you see Telus charges different pricing for them.
No longer on a leash by Fido
Phone fan
I'd really like to know what you're referring to here.............
... and for the life of me I can't make a decision between this and the telus option though I thank everyone's input to this thread so far - invaluable insight and experience. Now if only someone would come up with a cheap all data plan so I could just use voip from a smart device it would be the most simple...
Why yes, that is a bag phone
How would this work? Lots of data only plans on Wind with the data stick. But how are you going to turn it into talk, especially for receiving calls? I volunteer my data only sim for testing if someone thinks this is possible.
My screen is bigger than yours
It's doable, with VoIP services (or Google Voice, even). I remember someone's done this and wrote a guide about this before.
I've climbed a cellphone tower
WIND has a $29 for 12 months Data stick plan.
Using the simcard associated with this plan, you could stick it into any phone. Change the APN to "broadband.windmobile.ca". Voila.
1. If you have an Android phone, download/install SipDroid from the Market.
2. Sign up for voip.ms.
3. Enter sip credentials into sipdroid app
4. Purchase DID from voip.ms
5. Set DID to be answered by the sip credentials used in step 3.
djino
"That's it, That's all".
Phone fan
understood but at $29 it's better to get the BTS $25 special instead which includes data and everything else including the ability to do sipdroid.
Still hoping Fortissimo will let us in on the $16.66 multi-month plan he referred to above
Mobilicity Mod
I do this all the time with wifi! You have to set up incoming callson your SIP.
Caveat: Your battery will hate you!
I've got more phones than fingers
This is really a Mobilicity question, but just briefly. If you prepaid for 1 year, you get the deepest discount on certain plans. Such that the $25. / mo unlimited local calling plan, has a discount that it is $199. / year, but you have to pay it all up front. So if you divide 199 / 12, you get about $16.66. This is nothing secret about it, it's a known offer for a long time now. [This is not compatible with the currently ended promo of Back To School plan which includes data.]
Phone Collector
Looks like the free incoming promo has been extended.
My screen is bigger than yours
Yeah, the website now doesn't give a deadline. Can somebody confirm how long has this promo been extended?
Phone fan
I have my voip.ms forwarded to my cellphone (using a ring group). When I pick up a forwarded call the quality is fine, but what kills me is the latency. It gets funny sometimes, go.. you go.. go ahead. But I am spoiled by a near-landline voice quality of GSM, when most CDMA guys don't even notice the difference, latency? what?Not interested in doing this but out of curiosity what is the voip.ms call quality like when you call from your cell phone
My screen is bigger than yours
I noticed that some DID's are $0.99 per month. The Calgary one is $1.99 though. Would it make sense to buy one of the cheaper DID's (outside Calgary) if I am only going to be using voip.ms for Wind call back? I would still be billed the same rate during phone calls, regardless if my DID is a Calgary one or a Toronto one (for example), am I correct? But I would be getting the cheaper monthly rate...
CORRECTION: Some DID's are charged $0.01 per minute and some are $0.0149 per minute, so I could save on the phone call rates as well....
I've got more phones than fingers
Yes, it all depends on how many legs are added all together. That is the reason why I'm not relying on this kind of calling method myself. I should know better as I have been involved in VOIP tech for over 10 years and I only know too well. It's just like LD calling especially in the old days. They say that if the delay is longer than 0.5 seconds then it is annoying enough to most users. That is also the reason why most users won't enjoy VOIP over 3G (although this is not exactly that method but this method also uses 2 legs, not counting the cell leg itself). You can research on a VOSP that has a faster timing, but that is out of the scope of this forum (better go to DSLreports.com VOIP Tech forum).
Voice quality is another thing. Sometimes re-encoding in different codecs will produce funny artifacts, again, another subject all together.
I've climbed a cellphone tower
Yeah, you can choose any DID for this method (within North America) as whenever you call it, it will return a busy signal which wouldn't be charged by WIND. So choosing a Toronto DID will still work for you in Calgary.
The 1 cent / minute ( or 1.49 cents/minute) is the charge associated with receiving calls on your DID. But this is not relevant for this setup since you are never receiving calls on the DID. Yes you would be calling the DID from your WIND phone, but since this is used for Callback, this is not a chargeable event since there is no call time when a busy signal is produced.
All you are really concerned with here is the monthly price of the DID and the outgoing termination rate. Everything else about voip.ms is not used for the callback setup involved.
djino
Last edited by djino; 11-03-2011 at 07:47 AM.
I've climbed a cellphone tower
I would agree with the latency issues with voip over the years. And I've used many voip services since 2005 from 3web, Primus, Vonage, CIA, magicjack, google voice, freephoneline, to voip.ms. I would have to say that Voip.ms has had the best call quality. I currently use them as my home telephone service. The people I speak with can't tell the difference. The pricing/flexibility of their service is amazing as I never spend more than $6/month with $0.99 DID, $1.50 e911, 1 cent/minute on incoming calls, 0.52 cent/minute on outgoing calls all combined.
djino
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