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Post Machine
Interesting that you mention "Phonebooth" because I have had an account with them for years. This UMA may just be an extension of it. Look at the link and see what I mean.Originally Posted by en4rcer
So, this morning I went to the republic website and finally made it to the order page. Started placing my order and got to the point where I needed to enter my credit card. Noticed it was getting too late to finish, I closed the web browser & went to work.
A few hours later I received an email from phoneboothmobile.com:
Your Phonebooth Mobile invoice INV0000NNN is attached. Below please find a summary for your convenience:
Invoice Due Date: 11/09/2011
Invoice Total Amount: 110.14 USD
We will bill the credit card on file later today.
Thank you for your business!
. . . with a pdf invoice attached. Funny thing is I never entered any payment info and closed the page prior to submitting it. Wonder how long it will take for my 'order' to be cancelled?
http://www.phoneboothmobile.com/
Phone fan
I tried to order from Republic Wireless last night, filled it out except for payment as it caused an error when I tried to pay. Got an invoice from Phonebooth Mobile today. For the handset plus tax. I expect to be contact for payment soon. Phonebooth Mobile must be providing the backend for Republic Wireless
Post Machine
I think they are the same company!
I've got more phones than fingers
It wouldn't make sense to be 1000 units, as they even acknowledge that SMS uses a lot less cellular (PCS CDMA) bandwidth than voice. Hopefully it's at least 10:1, which would make a lot more sense, and effectively make this unlimited everything...
I usually support government regulation, but It is unfortunate that the government over-regulated and killed the AT&T/ T-Mobile Merger
The best explanation of the pricing nutiness in the industry.
Why Sprint and T-Mo will always suck.
The only way to end the pricing insanity is to eliminate contracts and subsidies.
I want Wifi calling on AT&T.
If you text while driving, you're an idiot. End of story.
Planet Express
For a little more detail on Republic's usage guidelines, see this:
http://republicwireless.com/home/pdf...2011-FINAL.pdf
Post Machine
That's nice they put that out but a CUI of 200 means nothing if they don't say what a CUI of 200 equates to. Just an example of a current CUI or two would be nice.
Home ISP, RR-Ultimate WiFi, $90/mo | Verizon 4G, $30/mo Unlimited
School, $5,000/semester | Work
Radiation is good
This policy seems to suggest the CUI is based purely on total cellular use and that the wifi offload percent is entirely separate. The plain text on their web site suggests that as more wifi is used, more cellular use is acceptable as well, as long as wifi offload is reasonable ratio compared to the average. The detailed PDF's definition of CUI suggests that using more wifi does not entitle one to use any more cellular, but only helps keep cellular usage down. So by having users watch the green offload graph is to tell the users to watch the wrong metric, although improving the wifi offload metric does indirectly help CUI for most people. Watching the wrong metric will be a problem if a user uses a whole lot of wifi plus a lot of cellular.
I've climbed a cellphone tower
I live in a somewhat large metro area. Wifi isn't everywhere for me. With all the garbage of people leeching torrents and other illegal activity on wifi, everyone seems to lock it down these days. I can see about 10-15 wifi networks from my office. All locked down. At home I can see about 5 or 6. Only one is open.
I just don't see this working out too well for people.
HoFo Moderator
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/11/r...ay-ask-you-to/
Republic Wireless certainly garnered itself a lot of attention with the promise of unlimited everything for only $19 a month and no contract. The company keeps the price so low by using what it calls "hybrid calling" -- a fancy way of saying it relies almost entirely on WiFi and VoIP, only falling back on Sprint frequencies when you wander away from an 802.11 connection. The service may be billed as all-you-can-eat, the reality is a little more complex. While you're free to plow through as much data and as many minutes as you want over WiFi, there are "fair usage" limitations on your cellular footprint. Specifically, if you cross a threshold of 550 minutes, 150 text messages or 300MB of data you may be asked to take your business elsewhere -- not exactly "unlimited" now is it.
Update: Republic Wireless issued a clarification on its Facebook page, explaining that you can in fact go over the 550 minute "example" above.
"People of the republic, we'd just like to clarify that 550 minutes, 150 texts, and 300 MB of data over 3G is just an example, not a limit. The more you offload to Wi-Fi, the more you can use. It's truly unlimited. We do have fair use guidelines and we encourage you to use Wi-Fi whenever possible."
Post Machine
The more you offload to Wi-Fi, the more you can use. It's truly unlimited.
Do they mean you can use all you want on WiFi or do they mean the more you use on WiFi the more cellular usage you can get?
If that's the case it would make sense to just put your phone in a call or stream HD video while on WiFi when you are sleeping or not using your phone in order to spike up the WiFi usage, then you will get more to use when you are not on WiFi.
HoFo Moderator
It appears they mean "truly unlimited by using WiFi".
Post Machine
Sounds crazy, but it could work for me! But I'm not budging until I know that their modifications work. As a side note, I have a feeling that the delay they are having is doing the mod itself. I posted a link to a Phonebooth 5 pack deal of the same phone to businesses without the UMA.
Post Machine
That's what I figured, bu then again they said something about 60%+ as long as you maintain that you should be good.
So if you used 100GB of data for example, as long as 60GB was on WiFi the other 40GB could be cellular. I am sure they would not like that.
Phone Collector
I'm really interested in this, but want to wait for user reviews of the service. I have wifi at home and at work.
- Successfully moved 5 people (+ myself) from Robbers.
I've got more phones than fingers
The wifi offload percentage doesn't make any sense. They have to pay Sprint for your usage, so it would make sense just to have the CUI. They would make more off of someone who doesn't wifi offload but barely uses their phone than an addicted heavy user who offloads 80% of their traffic, but still has a CUI close to 200. I think that nothing is based off of the wifi offload percentage, they are just trying to get people to see it and want to bring it up, and that if you get your service terminated is based off of the CUI only.
What makes no sense to me is why they are counting texts in the CUI. They take basically no capacity, and several services give unlimited texting at very low price points, and unlimited texting even in paid roaming areas. What is also missing is their actual current algorithm, as that would help figure things out. Also, it would be interesting to know if there is a nights/weekends algorithm adjustment for minutes, or if their deal with Sprint doesn't account for peak/off-peak usage.
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