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    T-Mobile USA Reports Third Quarter of 2011 Results: Net Gain 126k New Customers

    T-Mobile USA, Inc. ("T-Mobile USA") today reported third quarter 2011 service revenues of $4.67 billion, slightly down from $4.71 billion in the third quarter of 2010, and adjusted OIBDA of $1.45 billion, up from $1.32 billion reported in the third quarter of 2010. Additionally, net customer additions were 126,000 in the third quarter of 2011, a 176,000 improvement from net customer losses in the second quarter of 2011 of 50,000 and slightly down from 137,000 net customer additions in the third quarter of 2010.

    "Earnings improved as we continued to focus on making smartphones affordable to all Americans through our unlimited Value plans, improvements to our 4G network, and an expanding portfolio of 4G devices," said Philipp Humm, President and CEO of T-Mobile USA. "Attractive prepaid offerings helped us add customers in the third quarter of 2011 and data ARPU grew as smartphone adoption continued to increase. Discipline on the cost side contributed to year-on-year margin improvement, while postpay churn, in particular related to the iPhone 4S launches by competitors, will continue to be an area of concern."

    "I am pleased with the development of adjusted OIBDA in the third quarter of 2011. The increase, partly thanks to successful cost saving initiatives, is a positive sign in a still challenging environment," said Rene Obermann, CEO of Deutsche Telekom.

    Total Customers

    -- T-Mobile USA served 33.7 million customers (as defined in Note 1 to the Selected Data, below) at the end of third quarter of 2011, compared to 33.6 million customers at the end of second quarter 2011 and 33.8 million customers at the end of third quarter 2010.

    -- Third quarter 2011 net customer additions of 126,000, compared to a net customer loss in the second quarter of 2011 of 50,000, and net customer additions of 137,000 in the third quarter of 2010. -- During the second and third quarters of 2011, as part of T-Mobile USA's strategy of providing simple, value-based customer offers, T-Mobile USA introduced new unlimited Value plans for individuals, families and businesses, which resulted in improvement in net contract customer losses during the quarter.

    -- The quarter-over-quarter improvement in net customer additions was driven by improvements in both contract and prepaid gross additions resulting from the introduction of unlimited Value plans discussed above and growth of prepaid unlimited Monthly 4G plans. This growth may be impacted in the fourth quarter of 2011 due to competitor launches of the iPhone 4S.

    Contract Customers

    -- Contract net customer losses, including connected devices (as defined in Note 1 to the Selected Data, below), were 186,000 in the third quarter of 2011, an improvement from 281,000 net contract customer losses in the second quarter of 2011. Net contract customer losses were 54,000 in the third quarter of 2010.

    -- Branded contract net customer losses, excluding connected devices, were 389,000 in the third quarter of 2011, an improvement of 147,000 net branded contract customer losses from 536,000 in the second quarter of 2011. Net branded contract customer losses improved 64,000 in the third quarter of 2010. -- Sequentially, the improvement in net contract customer losses was driven primarily by higher gross additions related to the new unlimited Value plans.

    -- The year-over-year change was primarily due to fewer branded contract gross customer additions resulting in part from the implementation of strengthened credit standards as an aspect of T-Mobile USA's focus on improving the overall quality of its contract customer base. Additionally, customer migrations from prepaid products as a result of the strategic phase out of certain hybrid plans contributed to the year-on-year growth in net branded contract customers.

    -- Connected device net customer additions were 204,000 in the third quarter of 2011 compared to 256,000 in the second quarter of 2011 and 271,000 in the third quarter of 2010. Connected device customers, which have significantly lower ARPUs (averaging less than $2) than other contract customers, totaled 2.5 million at September 30, 2011.

    Prepaid Customers

    -- Prepaid net customer additions, including MVNO customers (as defined in Note 1 to the Selected Data, below), were 312,000 in the third quarter of 2011, an improvement from 231,000 net prepaid customer additions in the second quarter of 2011, and 190,000 net prepaid customer additions in the third quarter of 2010.

    -- Branded prepaid net customer additions, excluding MVNO customers, were 254,000 in the third quarter of 2011, up 325,000 from second quarter 2011 branded prepaid net customer losses of 71,000, and improved by 333,000 from 79,000 net branded prepaid customer losses in the third quarter of 2010. -- The sequential and year-on-year growth in branded prepaid net customer additions was due primarily to growth in unlimited Monthly 4G prepaid plans.

    -- MVNO customers increased slightly in the third quarter of 2011, totaling 3.5 million as of September 30, 2011. In the third quarter of 2011, net MVNO customer growth was lower compared to the second quarter of 2011 and the third quarter of 2010 due to higher MVNO customer churn.

    Churn

    -- Blended churn (as defined in Note 3 to the Selected Data, below), reflecting both contract and prepaid customers, increased to 3.5% in the third quarter of 2011, up from 3.3% in the second quarter of 2011 and 3.4% in the third quarter of 2010. -- The sequential and year-on-year increase in blended churn was primarily driven by higher churn from MVNO customers.

    -- Churn from branded customers was 3.2% in the third quarter of 2011, consistent with the second quarter of 2011, and an improvement from 3.4% in the third quarter of 2010. The year-on-year decrease was primarily due to improvement in branded prepaid churn as a result of unlimited Monthly 4G prepaid plans.

    -- Contract churn, including connected devices, was 2.4% in the third quarter of 2011, consistent with the second quarter of 2011 and the third quarter of 2010. -- To address contract churn, T-Mobile USA continued to focus on loyalty efforts during the quarter, including re-contracting its most loyal customers.

    -- Prepaid churn, including MVNO, increased to 7.2% in the third quarter of 2011, from 6.6% in the second quarter of 2011 and was consistent with the third quarter of 2010. -- The sequential increase in prepaid churn was driven primarily by higher MVNO deactivations.
    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/t-m...lts-2011-11-10
    Last edited by Danny4G; 11-10-2011 at 01:37 AM. Reason: Changed title to: T-Mobile USA Reports Third Quarter of 2011 Results: Net Gain 126k New Customers



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    T-Mobile USA Reports Third Quarter of 2011 Results: Net Gain 126k New Customers

    Source: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/t-m...lts-2011-11-10

    --Service revenues of $4.67 billion in the third quarter of 2011, up 1.0% from the second quarter of 2011 but down 0.9% from the third quarter of 2010

    --Net customer additions of 126,000 related to Value plan and unlimited Monthly 4G prepaid growth, compared to a net customer loss in the second quarter of 2011 of 50,000 and 137,000 net customer additions in the third quarter of 2010

    --Contract ARPU of $53 in the third quarter of 2011, consistent with $53 in the second quarter of 2011 and up from $52 in the third quarter of 2010 attributed in part to data ARPU growth

    --Data ARPU of $14.00 in the third quarter of 2011, up 13% from $12.40 in the third quarter of 2010

    --As of the end of the third quarter of 2011, 10.1 million customers were using 3G/4G smartphones, up 40% compared to 7.2 million as of the end of the third quarter of 2010

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    Lets hope this is the beginning of a brighter future for Tmobile. The future without AT&T ofcourse.

    For those that think that Tmobile is done, in your face. It's not all about Iphone, I am so much into Android, I have no use for Iphone, too restrictive.

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    The writing has been on the wall for T-Mobile USA when DT announced they wanted to off-load their USA division.

    DT isn't going to invest any more infrastructure and either T-Mobile USA will be sold off to someone or be left to pieces.

    Just pick you poison. Be sold off to ATT and get better support (with higher prices). Or stay with a dying division until the masses leave.

    The key wording isn't "net gain". It's "total loss of contracted customers". Contracts matter most to investors because it's a steady stream of income. T-Mobile LOST over 100K contracted customers Q3, and LOST over 200K contracted customers in Q2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aneftp View Post
    The writing has been on the wall for T-Mobile USA when DT announced they wanted to off-load their USA division.

    DT isn't going to invest any more infrastructure and either T-Mobile USA will be sold off to someone or be left to pieces.

    Just pick you poison. Be sold off to ATT and get better support (with higher prices). Or stay with a dying division until the masses leave.

    The key wording isn't "net gain". It's "total loss of contracted customers". Contracts matter most to investors because it's a steady stream of income. T-Mobile LOST over 100K contracted customers Q3, and LOST over 200K contracted customers in Q2.
    Money is still going into the network, did you miss the capital expenditures? It's not $0

    T-Mobile won't just dry up and die out if the AT&T acquisition goes the wayside, where are you people getting this from? If anything a different suitor will be found, the only other suitors I can think of want T-Mobile without the desire to gut its assets.

    Switch over to better support if you want it. Something will force more competition and better networks and if it's not defecting customers nothing else will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trex33 View Post
    Lets hope this is the beginning of a brighter future for Tmobile. The future without AT&T ofcourse.

    For those that think that Tmobile is done, in your face. It's not all about Iphone, I am so much into Android, I have no use for Iphone, too restrictive.
    Although not horrendous, this is not that great of a report at all but it was not unexpected.

    Seems like T-Mobile and Sprint are in a similar position. Postpaid losses, prepaid gains.

    What I like about T-Mobile is that they still make money and are increasing the ARPU on the postpaid side. It seems like they are at about 33% of their customers using smart phones. As that increases, so will ARPU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billm261 View Post
    Although not horrendous, this is not that great of a report at all but it was not unexpected.

    Seems like T-Mobile and Sprint are in a similar position. Postpaid losses, prepaid gains.

    What I like about T-Mobile is that they still make money and are increasing the ARPU on the postpaid side. It seems like they are at about 33% of their customers using smart phones. As that increases, so will ARPU.
    T-Mobile needs to convert their GSM customers to 3G customers ASAP. They can then refarm their 1900MHz PCS to LTE. They can still survive if not thrive as an independent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trex33 View Post
    Lets hope this is the beginning of a brighter future for Tmobile.
    Some bright future. Did you not see: "Branded contract net customer losses, excluding connected devices, were 389,000 in the third quarter of 2011"

    For those that think that Tmobile is done, in your face. It's not all about Iphone,
    Oh yeah? Then why did T-Mobile mention this:

    "while postpay churn, in particular related to the iPhone 4S launches by competitors, will continue to be an area of concern.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Kies
    Money is still going into the network, did you miss the capital expenditures? It's not $0
    Only because under their agreement with AT&T, T-Mobile is required to keep capital expenditures at the same level. If the deal gets the axe, that will be the first thing to be cut.


    T-Mobile won't just dry up and die out if the AT&T acquisition goes the wayside, where are you people getting this from?
    From T-mobile themselves who say that contract losses continue and that they have no spectrum and no path to LTE. They can't compete in the future without LTE. That's a fact.

    If anything a different suitor will be found, the only other suitors I can think of want T-Mobile without the desire to gut its assets.
    This is just speculation. There's been no other serious suitor for T-Mobile other than Sprint. (And Sprint would be in a much worse position to do an integration with their debt problems.) Nobody else has come forward saying they want T-Mobile, so you can not conclude that an unknown entity wouldn't want to gut their assets.

    Quote Originally Posted by bigsnake49
    T-Mobile needs to convert their GSM customers to 3G customers ASAP. They can then refarm their 1900MHz PCS to LTE.
    Their 3G network has just a fraction of the coverage of their 2G network. They do not have the cash to build up their 3G network to that amount of coverage at this time.

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    Only reason LTE is taking off this fast in the US, is because of Verizon. If Verizon wasn't so deep into their LTE plans, OEM's wouldn't be so eager to launch LTE phones/devices.

    Since, Verizon is so deep into pumping out the service, OEMs are jumping on the rollout.

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    It would be funny if china mobile buys T-Mobile network. Haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xtachx View Post
    It would be funny if china mobile buys T-Mobile network. Haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xtachx
    It would be funny if china mobile buys T-Mobile network. Haha.

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    No, it's China Telecom.
    There are three main carriers there:
    China Mobile (running on TD-SCDMA and TD-LTE)
    China Unicom (running on standard HSPA)
    China Telecom (China version of Sprint)
    Quote Originally Posted by xxx;
    No 1900 3G phone in the market.
    Who is that idiot saying that???!



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    Quote Originally Posted by xtachx View Post
    It would be funny if china mobile buys T-Mobile network. Haha.
    Be careful what you wish for,

    11:11 AM China Telecom (CHA) says it will begin selling wireless service in the U.S. early next year, with the goal of targeting Chinese-Americans, students, and those who travel often between the U.S. and China. Given that China Telecom runs an EV-DO 3G network, it might strike a partnership with Sprint (S) or Verizon Wireless (VZ, VOD), both of whom also rely on EV-DO.

    http://seekingalpha.com/symbol/s?sou...ch_general&s=s

    I guess it's unlikely since they use CDMA but it's not impossible.
    I have had enough of China in America already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lennyj17 View Post

    Sprint Cdma adding.....Iden user are leaving iDen because its an old tired and dead technology...
    But the argument is that if they loose 500K IDEN and gain 300K CDMA they still lost 200K postpaid customers. How is that good business? Sprint is sneaky in that they do not (or refuse to) disclose how many of those CDMA additions were merely network transitions.

    I know you abhor IDEN but the simple fact remains is that the CDMA side can not add enough customers to offset the IDEN losses.
    If Sprint was doing as well as you think they are I would at least hope for a "wash" but no, those 200K left for another carrier.

    Back on the topic of T-Mobile, Q4 2011 is going to be brutal I suspect, the warnings were already in this report.
    I almost believe that not getting the iPhone was on purpose and AT&T had their hands in it. I like T-Mobile (I just have some coverage issues) and I use Sprint but neither Hesse or Humm are going to be on the front page of Forbes magazine holding a trophy anytime soon.
    Last edited by billm261; 11-10-2011 at 08:54 PM.

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    Lenny it's been a while since we've had this discussion but I don't appreciate trolling in this forum especially in my stickies. I'd love for you to continue sharing your ideas here but please do so with tact. We're not that hard of a group to get along with. Anyone respectful is welcome to post here. Unfortunately I've had to remove your comments to maintain the coherence of this thread.

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