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    WIND and Mobilicity need to team up Bellus style for this auction. Its more efficient this way. If there is a cap set in place, the partnership would work out very well. There might even be leftovers for Public maybe. Unless they want to join the new entrant coalition too.

    I think WIND and Mobi should actually tower share for AWS too and build towers jointly from now on. To improve efficiency.

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    maybe after Dave is gone, Mobi might be in talks with Tony and the shareholders..

    a merger wouldnt be the the best.. but a sharing agreement like droidacolyte mention but be the best way... this way theres not burden of addition debt to be covered.



    How will this cap work? based on size or company or divided evenly... even then robelus would still complain about the cap... they just dont want the new entrants to have any 700mhz completely..

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    Quote Originally Posted by droidacolyte View Post
    WIND and Mobilicity need to team up Bellus style for this auction. Its more efficient this way. If there is a cap set in place, the partnership would work out very well. There might even be leftovers for Public maybe. Unless they want to join the new entrant coalition too.

    I think WIND and Mobi should actually tower share for AWS too and build towers jointly from now on. To improve efficiency.

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    I agree to this idea too.
    This way they can minimize the operating costs, and I would also suggest they sign to share the network with Videotron.
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    Quote Originally Posted by droidacolyte View Post
    WIND and Mobilicity need to team up Bellus style for this auction. Its more efficient this way. If there is a cap set in place, the partnership would work out very well. There might even be leftovers for Public maybe. Unless they want to join the new entrant coalition too.
    I think that this is the article that was previously mentioned.

    It suggests a 10Mhz/company bandwidth limit which would seem to limit Rogers/Bellus to 30Mhz whereas I think that quite a bit more than that is being auctioned off (anyone know exactly how much of the spectrum is to be auctioned and how much might be reserved for other purposes?). If so, even if not explicitly a set-aside it would seem to have the same effect while simultaneously limited Videotron from sucking up all Quebec spectrum.

    Sounds like a win to me. Of course, at the moment this is still all a bit speculative.

    It also talks of "a move that would allow non-Canadians to own 100 per cent of firms that have 10-per-cent market share or less" - again interesting.

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    ... and if I read this Industry Canada doc correctly, there may be as much as 84Mhz of spectrum available under auction once you adjust for set-asides for various purposes.

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    Is mobilicity compatible with IPHONE

    Well, Mobilicity and WIND have the sane frequency's so that would mean if WIND has IPhone, then Mobilicity will have one to. Mobilicity is currently working on a plan for IPHONE, but they would need to buy 1,000 IPhones because Mobi and Wind have a different frequency's then all the other cell phone companies. Every company has there own frequency like

    ROGERS WIRELESS Owns-
    Chat-R
    Fido

    Bell Owns-
    Solo mobile
    TELUS

    Telus Owns-
    Koodo

    The cell phone companies listed above have different frequencies then each other. Every cell phone company is in a group. Ex. Koodo and Telus share the same network/frequencies and Rogers shares there network/frequencies with Fido and Chat-R......

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    What are you even talking about? Neither Wind or Mobilicity are iPhone compatible, there is no AWS iPhone in the works, and if there was, it would most definitely not go to Mobilicity first with only 1,000 units when the iPhone is selling in 7/8 digit volumes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmster View Post
    Well, Mobilicity and WIND have the sane frequency's so that would mean if WIND has IPhone, then Mobilicity will have one to. Mobilicity is currently working on a plan for IPHONE, but they would need to buy 1,000 IPhones because Mobi and Wind have a different frequency's then all the other cell phone companies. Every company has there own frequency like

    ROGERS WIRELESS Owns-
    Chat-R
    Fido

    Bell Owns-
    Solo mobile
    TELUS

    Telus Owns-
    Koodo

    The cell phone companies listed above have different frequencies then each other. Every cell phone company is in a group. Ex. Koodo and Telus share the same network/frequencies and Rogers shares there network/frequencies with Fido and Chat-R......
    When did bell buy telus?

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    bmster, you've got it mostly wrong.

    Rogers bought Fido and created Chatr as a fighter brand, has nationwide 2G GSM on 850/1900, 3G UMTS in some cities on 850/1900 and 4G LTE on 1700 in Toronto (I don't think they've launched anywhere else yet)

    Telus bought MiKE and created Koodo to compete with Fido and Virgin. Telus and Koodo have Nationwide CDMA on 800/1900 and 3G UMTS on 850/1900 (incidentally, 800 and 850 are the same, just for some reason with GSM/UMTS it gets called 850). MiKE is on iDEN at 800.

    Bell bought the remaining control in Virgin, and had bought out and revived Solo to fight Virgin and Fido and has been repurposed as a fighter brand several times. Bell, Virgin and Solo are all on 800/1900 CDMA and 850/1900 3G UMTS.

    Bell and Telus are seperate entities, they just have tower sharing agreements with Telus using Bell's towers in the East and Bell using Telus' towers in the West.

    There are also a number of MVNOs, like DCI Wireless (which is probably mostly dead now, but was a Fido MVNO before they were bought out by Rogers, and kept the same deal without renegotiating), Ztar (which rebrands as 7-Eleven SpeakOut and Petro Canada Mobility) which buys from Rogers, and Presidents Choice Mobility which buys from Bell. The only Telus MVNO I'm aware of was Amp'd, and that's been dead for ages.

    At the moment, pretty much every carrier and MVNO (probably excepting DCI) except for Wind and Mobilicity work with GSM phones with UMTS 850/1900.
    The word 'Pentaband' means '5 Bands', from the Greek word 'pente' meaning '5'. For a phone to be pentaband it has to support 5 bands. If the phone has AWS support, it doesn't automatically mean that it is pentaband. The reason Wind and Mobilicity users like pentaband phones is because the reverse is true. We're not the only ones who like pentaband phones though, so please stop referring to phones that work on Wind and Mobilicity as pentaband. It causes unnecessary cofusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmster View Post
    Well, Mobilicity and WIND have the sane frequency's so that would mean if WIND has IPhone, then Mobilicity will have one to. Mobilicity is currently working on a plan for IPHONE, but they would need to buy 1,000 IPhones because Mobi and Wind have a different frequency's then all the other cell phone companies. Every company has there own frequency like

    ROGERS WIRELESS Owns-
    Chat-R
    Fido

    Bell Owns-
    Solo mobile
    TELUS

    Telus Owns-
    Koodo

    The cell phone companies listed above have different frequencies then each other. Every cell phone company is in a group. Ex. Koodo and Telus share the same network/frequencies and Rogers shares there network/frequencies with Fido and Chat-R......
    Bell/Telus/Virgin/Koodo/Solo/PC Mobile all share the same CDMA + HSPA network. (Bell and Telus share the entire network from coast to coast with each other and all their brands, the HSPA network has towers in all provinces, there is no "Telus in west and Bell in east" anymore. It's all equal.)

    Rogers/Fido/Cheat-r/7-11/Petro-Canada/Cityfone all share the same GPRS + EDGE + HSPA network.

    All 12 of the above use the same frequencies.

    Then there is WIND/Mobilicity, which have the new frequencies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustinCredible View Post
    Bell/Telus/Virgin/Koodo/Solo/PC Mobile all share the same CDMA + HSPA network. (Bell and Telus share the entire network from coast to coast with each other and all their brands, the HSPA network has towers in all provinces, there is no "Telus in west and Bell in east" anymore. It's all equal.).
    Bell/Telus have their own separate CDMA towers in many places, they do allow ROAMING on each others CDMA network where required. The Bell/Telus HSPA network was a joint build-out with common-equipment on common-towers with each carrier taking the lead on the build-out where it made practical and generally geographical sense, so the HSPA network is shared and is technically not roaming anywhere. In many places you will find separate towers for Telus CDMA, Bell CDMA and Bell/Telus HSPA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robsaw View Post
    Bell/Telus have their own separate CDMA towers in many places, they do allow ROAMING on each others CDMA network where required. The Bell/Telus HSPA network was a joint build-out with common-equipment on common-towers with each carrier taking the lead on the build-out where it made practical and generally geographical sense, so the HSPA network is shared and is technically not roaming anywhere. In many places you will find separate towers for Telus CDMA, Bell CDMA and Bell/Telus HSPA.
    Yes indeed, and CDMA is a dying technology anyway with next to no relevance to 99% of users on this forum, with the future being HSPA and of course LTE.



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    Quote Originally Posted by JustinCredible View Post
    Yes indeed, and CDMA is a dying technology anyway with next to no relevance to 99% of users on this forum, with the future being HSPA and of course LTE.



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    If CDMA is dying, how did Verizon become America's largest wireless provider with CDMA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by arpez228 View Post
    If CDMA is dying, how did Verizon become America's largest wireless provider with CDMA?
    Verizon is scrapping CDMA for LTE. They have LTE in 190 markets now.

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    Verizon is going through the same hoops as TDMA providers did a few years ago. Everyone worldwide is going to an LTE platform. At some point every carrier plays "catch up" AT&T currently lacks the frequency to launch a national LTE network. The previous strategy of AT&T was faster in less areas, now its the same in less areas. There marketing team has the same focus, but lacks national (aka rural) marketing.

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