Who here has received a throttling warning? Cause I have :devil:

**jet1000** · 12-31-2011, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by Wide_opeN

AT&T if you're reading and I know you are, YOU WILL NOT GET AWAY WITH THIS!!! PERIOD!!!

We will beat every war drum, contact every regulatory body, investigative news reporter, etc...

Please. Did you read the terms and conditions that you agreed to? You agreed to this:

1.3 Can AT&T Change My Terms And Rates?

We may change any terms, conditions, rates, fees, expenses, or charges regarding your Services at any time.

By adding a throttle they are changing a condition. You agreed that they could. End of story. They don't have to have any reason for adding a throttle either. Nor do they have to let you out of your contract because a throttle doesn't meet one of the conditions for no fee early terminations:

IF WE INCREASE THE PRICE OF ANY OF THE SERVICES TO WHICH YOU SUBSCRIBE, BEYOND THE LIMITS SET FORTH IN YOUR CUSTOMER SERVICE SUMMARY, OR IF WE MATERIALLY DECREASE THE GEOGRAPHICAL AREA IN WHICH YOUR AIRTIME RATE APPLIES (OTHER THAN A TEMPORARY DECREASE FOR REPAIRS OR MAINTENANCE), WE'LL DISCLOSE THE CHANGE AT LEAST ONE BILLING CYCLE IN ADVANCE (EITHER THROUGH A NOTICE WITH YOUR BILL, A TEXT MESSAGE TO YOUR DEVICE, OR OTHERWISE), AND YOU MAY TERMINATE THIS AGREEMENT WITHOUT PAYING AN EARLY TERMINATION FEE OR RETURNING OR PAYING FOR ANY PROMOTIONAL ITEMS, PROVIDED YOUR NOTICE OF TERMINATION IS DELIVERED TO US WITHIN THIRTY (30) DAYS AFTER THE FIRST BILL REFLECTING THE CHANGE.

So there's nothing that a regulatory body, investigative reporters or war drums are going to do. If you don't like it, then you are free to take your business elsewhere or do without cell service altogether.

CA · 12-31-2011, 02:14 PM

Hear hear, Jet is right, now everyone get up and find another seat! A true advocate for a different carrier, Ma Bell would be proud.

**-banned-** · 12-31-2011, 04:44 PM

ya know… there are those that will defend corporations to no end while others attack the corporations… Whether its their legal right to do what they do, its not always the moral thing to do…

Im sorry but 2% of ~100 million subscribers sucking down 10+ gb per month of data is NOT a strain on the network. Do the math on a tower that can support 3.6M or even 7.2M and calculate how much data that is in a 30 day cycle… And compare that to a single person consuming 10 gb in the same 30 day cycle… You tell me where the strain is … If you still support their throttling, then you are part of the problem.

**Antenna** · 12-31-2011, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by jet1000

Please. Did you read the terms and conditions that you agreed to? You agreed to this:

By adding a throttle they are changing a condition. You agreed that they could. End of story. They don't have to have any reason for adding a throttle either. Nor do they have to let you out of your contract because a throttle doesn't meet one of the conditions for no fee early terminations:

So there's nothing that a regulatory body, investigative reporters or war drums are going to do. If you don't like it, then you are free to take your business elsewhere or do without cell service altogether.

I think its..... pathetic! If T-Mobile did this, throttle at points less than 5GB you would be all over it

Sent from my HTC Incredible S

**Guest 214** · 12-31-2011, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by Antenna

I think its..... pathetic! If T-Mobile did this, throttle at points less than 5GB you would be all over it

Sent from my HTC Incredible S

Ehh don't worry about his posts. Clearly he works for AT&T and is on charge of forums damage control, and clearly it isn't working so he won't have a job much longer

**Extraordinary** · 01-01-2012, 03:58 AM

I sure am glad I left AT&T in 2009. Only a few friends left on AT&T and they are not heavy data users. One friend got the warning with a few days left in cycle at just over 2GB which was mostly due to Pandora.

If Verizon did this to me I would be out as quick as possible. I rather give $25 or $35 a month to Virgin Mobile and get a unlimited text + data plan on the side (even if it was slower)... That is if I really needed the mobile data.

**johnhere** · 01-01-2012, 07:12 AM

With all the users they have 2% is nothing.

**-banned-** · 01-01-2012, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by Antenna

I think its..... pathetic! If T-Mobile did this, throttle at points less than 5GB you would be all over it

t-mobile offers full 4g speed up to 2gb, then throttled to edge after, but it is still unlimited..

**-banned-** · 01-01-2012, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by LTE Fever

Clearly he works for AT&T and is on charge of forums damage control, and clearly it isn't working so he won't have a job much longer

i believe there is another one in here that works for AT$T…. also defends them and preaches the TOS as if he/she wrote them…. lol

**-banned-** · 01-01-2012, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by johnhere

With all the users they have 2% is nothing.

right, only 2% of their TOTAL users are data hogs… pretty sad on their part to throttle the minute 2% that are tearing down the network lol

**silentjudge** · 01-01-2012, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by -banned-

t-mobile offers full 4g speed up to 2gb, then throttled to edge after, but it is still unlimited..

Thats only if you sign up for that specific plan. People grandfathered into unlimited have 5GB cap and throttle. Thats what Antenna is pointing out.

Edit: Above is referring to T-Mobile as was the original post I quoted

**nerdydesi** · 01-01-2012, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by silentjudge

People grandfathered into unlimited have 5GB cap and throttle.

The problem is that ATT is capping their unlimited data customers at varied rates. Some are getting capped as little as 2gb and some up to 10gb. This is really frustrating and confusing to their customers, naturally. My friend with ATT who has an iPhone 4S has used 7gb so far, he got the warning text, but hasn't been throttled at all. We both are in a major market though, Houston, if that makes a difference.

I am only noticing that ATT Android users are getting throttled. Have any iPhone customers in this thread been throttled yet?

CA · 01-01-2012, 04:10 PM

Things are getting interesting now, so I'm jumping in! This forum posted an article about this stuff with three URLs, and one is from hofo!

http://www.prepaidphonenews.com/2011...lan-again.html

Originally Posted by Susan Stoff

I purchased the H2O $60 "unlimited" everything plan three weeks ago. My service was stopped yesterday. I called customer service and they literally screamed at me. They said I had "abused" the service by using too many talk minutes so they "suspended" my service. I had already paid for the next month but they refuse to refund my money because I was at fault. After the customer service guy berated me for "excessive usage", he told me that "nothing is unlimited". He could not tell me how many minutes are acceptable, nor do I know how many minutes I used. All I know is that I used too many "unlimited" minutes so I lost my service and my money! I made a complaint with the FCC.

H2O uses AT&Ts network. It seems that H2O is only allowed to use a certain amount of bandwith and traffic. I believe that AT&T sends them a list of the "high" users and then H2O cancels them.

Lotus has already been in trouble with the FCC for deceptive practices and failure to comply with the 1934 Telecommunications Act. They were selling pre-paid phone cards that were displayed as providing a certain number of minutes of calls. There were numerous other charges that Lotus included in calls but these charges were not clearly displayed on the phone cards. Thus, the users would buy a phone card that touted 100 minutes of calls to Mexico, but actually only provided 20 minutes because Lotus subtracted all type of charges for their use. I found the FCC letter to Lotus online.

Do not bother using H2O wireless. They are deceptive and will literally refuse to refund unused money. Wow, this was a shock. Most companies do not do such blatantly illegal activities.

http://www.ripoffreport.com/cellular...ot-q-cd9e1.htm

http://www.scambook.com/report/view/...-on-11-23-2011

If the FCC jumps on this, that's two for ATT and one for Verizon. Batters up!

**silentjudge** · 01-01-2012, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by CA

Things are getting interesting now, so I'm jumping in! This forum posted an article about this stuff with three URLs, and one is from hofo!

http://www.prepaidphonenews.com/2011...lan-again.html

http://www.ripoffreport.com/cellular...ot-q-cd9e1.htm

http://www.scambook.com/report/view/...-on-11-23-2011

If the FCC jumps on this, that's two for ATT and one for Verizon. Batters up!

That just proves H2O is deceptive. We haven't heard of anything like it from the other AT&T MVNOs like Red Pocket, Air Voice, etc.

You can also get the Unlimited Talk/Text directly from AT&T via GoPhone. Its not likely that AT&T will cut you off for talking too much.

**jet1000** · 01-01-2012, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by -banned-

Im sorry but 2% of ~100 million subscribers sucking down 10+ gb per month of data is NOT a strain on the network.

Plenty of people report 10GB + with no throttling. So AT&T is only doing it in geographical areas where the network is under heavy stress while permitting those in unstressed areas to still use significant quantities.

If the FCC had quickly permitted the T-Mobile acquisition, then AT&T would now be readying new cell sites to expand their network. Unfortunately, the FCC decided to stick AT&T customers with this situation. Fortunately, AT&T has set it up to keep speeds high for their premium customers who pay by the GB.

Originally Posted by CA

If the FCC jumps on this, that's two for ATT and one for Verizon. Batters up!

This stuff about H2O has nothing to do with AT&T. AT&T charges H2O wholesale rates for what their customers use. They'd actually want H20 customers to use more because then they would make more. The speculation about ATT sending a list of heavy users to H2O is nonsense.

The FCC should investigate H20 not AT&T.

Originally Posted by Extraordinary

If Verizon did this to me I would be out as quick as possible. I rather give $25 or $35 a month to Virgin Mobile and get a unlimited text + data plan on the side (even if it was slower)...

Virgin Mobile data is no replacement for AT&T data. Sometimes it is excruciatingly slow. It may be good if you're low on cash and in some places it works ok. But even they're going to be throttling at 2.5GB.