Loophole: How to get unlimited data

**coorey** · 01-15-2012, 05:13 PM

I'm sorry but most of you are making this harder than it really is...

Just call, add it, and drop it. The unlimited data will not be removed. The feature will be pro-rated.

**ushneb** · 01-15-2012, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by newyork4me

I suspect they still could. The terms and conditions of ancillary services are incorporated into the VZW contract. I suspect somewhere in their data plan terms it says that you can't tether, and if you did, the user would be breaching the contract and VZW could switch them.

Of course, this shouldn't apply to those with LTE devices tethering on LTE. The open access restrictions VZW agreed to state they can't discriminate against data, etc., etc. Thus, federal law would render any conflicting "you can't do this" provision null and the user should be able to tether away. [Which I'm sure is 99% of the reason they offer the unlimited 4G hotspot to begin with--they know this and they just want to capture as much revenue as they can from it]

Which federal law are you referring to? Just curious and would like to look at it.

**whitetigergrowl** · 01-15-2012, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by coorey

I'm sorry but most of you are making this harder than it really is...

Just call, add it, and drop it. The unlimited data will not be removed. The feature will be pro-rated.

Tell that to those that did that, were audited and lost it. Some have been audited and in anywhere from 1 hour to one week lost it and were reverted back. Also tell that to people that no matter how many times they have called could not get it added.

In theory it should always work as easily as you have said. Then there's reality. It's kind of a downer.

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**newyork4me** · 01-15-2012, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by ushneb

Which federal law are you referring to? Just curious and would like to look at it.

The open access restrictions on the Upper C block.

**Blue Pearl** · 01-15-2012, 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by whitetigergrowl

You have to add it on the phone. Success on getting it has been varied but overall successful. Just let them know you were on your My Verizon account and tried adding the 4G Hotspot and it give an error to call in to add it. It may take a few tries.

Once the rep adds it though, unless you get audited, it is added almost immediately and in most cases stays that way for good.

But if you do get it added, does it always automatically give you unlimited data? I wouldn't want to do it, if I didn't get unlimited data.

**Dust N Bones** · 01-15-2012, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by Blue Pearl

So, do I have to add the MHS on the phone with CS, or can I do it in the store? Or online? I remember that I think it has to be done on the phone with CS. And does it ever happen that you don't automatically get unlimited data?? I want to make sure that I get the unlimited data. I also want to keep it, of course, but don't want to keep MHS indefinitely. I'll keep it for a while though to try to keep it indefinitely.

Originally Posted by Blue Pearl

But if you do get it added, does it always automatically give you unlimited data? I wouldn't want to do it, if I didn't get unlimited data.

Seriously man, the answers to your questions are already in this thread, just take some time and read the last 10 pages or so.

**vzwinagent** · 01-15-2012, 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by Vatothe0

If they can't tell the difference between 4g phone data and 4g hotspot data, why do you get the redirect page when you try to use hotspot without paying?

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I see your point. I thought of that as well. Can't really explain that as my thoughts were just a theory. There is a lot of information though that if you think about it makes sense. Not sure why else some of the changes that have been made would have been made.

**klzemx3** · 01-19-2012, 01:43 AM

Ill put data back on there if you ha it before, but I can clearly see when someone is trying to cheat the system. We get audited and it comes back sooner or later.

**whitetigergrowl** · 01-19-2012, 03:10 AM

Originally Posted by klzemx3

Ill put data back on there if you ha it before, but I can clearly see when someone is trying to cheat the system. We get audited and it comes back sooner or later.

So someone has the unlimited hotspot and unlimited data using this loophole or whatever it is then after a few months decides they don't want the hotspot anymore. Is that cheating the system.

It also says nothing about this applying only to grandfathered plans.

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**fraydog** · 01-19-2012, 05:04 AM

Does this have anything to do with Verizon trying their best to remove the open access provisions in Upper Band C? That would be a shame if that happened.

**Duckmeister** · 01-19-2012, 08:13 AM

I wonder if today's AT&T's announcement to raiser their rates on tiered data plans is signaling a price war where big changes are coming.

It appears more and more to me that this was a promotion. Its either that, or Verizon is trying to save face on not catching this glitch sooner. Either way, it appears that they are moving on. I've got to believe that they have bigger issues than this is being made to be. I've still yet to see mass account resets and unlimited data removed!

I for one kept the MHS and I will be mad as heck if Verizon makes any changes to my account if I decide later that I no longer want MHS AND I WILL PROTEST WITH MY WALLET AND GO ELSE WHERE! If they want to go after those who got MHS and immediately dumped it then they need to fight that battle differently than from those who are legitimately giving this a go.

**jseah** · 01-19-2012, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by Duckmeister

I wonder if today's AT&T's announcement to raiser their rates on tiered data plans is signaling a price war where big changes are coming.

It appears more and more to me that this was a promotion. Its either that, or Verizon is trying to save face on not catching this glitch sooner. Either way, it appears that they are moving on. I've got to believe that they have bigger issues than this is being made to be. I've still yet to see mass account resets and unlimited data removed!

I for one kept the MHS and I will be mad as heck if Verizon makes any changes to my account if I decide later that I no longer want MHS AND I WILL PROTEST WITH MY WALLET AND GO ELSE WHERE! If they want to go after those who got MHS and immediately dumped it then they need to fight that battle differently than from those who are legitimately giving this a go.

AT&T going from $15 for 150 MB to $20 for 300 MB matches what Verizon charged for 300 MB (back when they still offered it).

**Cares** · 01-19-2012, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by whitetigergrowl

Tell that to those that did that, were audited and lost it. Some have been audited and in anywhere from 1 hour to one week lost it and were reverted back. Also tell that to people that no matter how many times they have called could not get it added.

In theory it should always work as easily as you have said. Then there's reality. It's kind of a downer.

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Who got audited?

**Duckmeister** · 01-19-2012, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by klzemx3

Ill put data back on there if you ha it before, but I can clearly see when someone is trying to cheat the system. We get audited and it comes back sooner or later.

So what is your take on all of this? For those who have it and haven't had it taken away yet, are you saying that it will catch up with them sooner or later? Will Verizon just close this and let those who have it keep it and just start anew with the new customers by not giving it to them?