T-Mobile is deploying 1900MHz HSPA/4G

[Loyal Servant]

What is holding T-Mobile back from getting their whole EDGE network migrated to HSPA and friends?
I thought that a lot of the newer BTS gear just required new firmware?

When they start migrating over to 1900 what about all the EDGE BTS they have?
Surely it's not all backhaul they are waiting on?

Anyone know what the holdup there is?
Seems that AT&T is making serious headway in getting their EDGE network upgraded to me.

[Gman91]

Its "4G" but not as fast as postpaid (not talking LTE, just HSPA+). Based on speedtests I've seen, it seems that Straight Talk has fasater data, then Red Pocket, then H2O Wireless, with GoPhone bringing up the rear.

The test in my sig is on Straight Talk. I normally get about 6-7mbps on a good tower with good signal.

I'm very tempted to just start a 2yr contract with VW and get the 450minutes/Unlimited Text/2gb Data plan with 10$ for each additional gig. IF I use 3gb of data it will be 99.99$ a Month. That is ~40$ more than I'm paying now but might be worth it. The only thing holding me back is I just switched jobs and this one doesn't have as many hours. I am in school and my funding is getting dropped next year so I'll be about 100$ short every month compared to where I am currently at financially. I can afford it now but I'm just not sure It's best for me.

[TheCellphoneGuy]

I'm very tempted to just start a 2yr contract with VW and get the 450minutes/Unlimited Text/2gb Data plan with 10$ for each additional gig. IF I use 3gb of data it will be 99.99$ a Month. That is ~40$ more than I'm paying now but might be worth it. The only thing holding me back is I just switched jobs and this one doesn't have as many hours. I am in school and my funding is getting dropped next year so I'll be about 100$ short every month compared to where I am currently at financially. I can afford it now but I'm just not sure It's best for me.

Don't forget that Verizon Wireless will also charge you a deposit fee that is based on your credit score. The better the credit score you have, the lower the deposit fee will be.

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[Wireless Junkie]

What flagship phone?

Most of their recent phones have either quad band 3g or triband 850/aws/1900 3g.

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The One S doesn't have PCS does it?

[terryjohnson16]

The One S doesn't have PCS does it?

No it doesnt. Just aws and euro 2100.

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[Wireless Junkie]

I doubt you're getting worse than Virgin Mobile, i also have a Sprint line and it will usually just time out the speedtests (the network that Virgin is piggybacking off of)

You talk about a waste of a data network.. Sprint would be the primary one as an example of an oversold, under maintained network

Your speaking only from your experiences, I know PLENTY of areas that T-Mobile is stuck on GPRS only still in 2012 where Sprint has a solid 1.5mbit/s 3G... You put a blanket over Sprint and T-Mobile like it applies everywhere.

Trust me, T-Mobile is nothing to write home about either.

[Gman91]

Don't forget that Verizon Wireless will also charge you a deposit fee that is based on your credit score. The better the credit score you have, the lower the deposit fee will be.

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True that, My credit score is rather good for a 21 yr old but it's still iffy for me. I would hate having a cell phone contract, I have never been a big fan of them.

[cmstlist]

The One S doesn't have PCS does it?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...1673378&page=2

http://www.howardforums.com/showthre...2#post14822292

According to the above threads the Telus and Bell HTC One S says PJ40110 on the FCC tag. I am told that is the same as T-Mobile's. And Bell & Telus are HSPA 850/1900 carriers.

So yes the One S does have PCS. And 850 as well.

[lewton]

If they were so serious about H+ on PCS then why doesn't their flagship phone have PCS capability on 3G

Samsung Galaxy SIII:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_gala..._t999-4804.php

If GSMArena is correct, the Euro release of the Asus PadFone is 900/2100 only for 3G. Apparently there is still some group of manufacturers out there who think it's a good idea to release an expensive device incompatible with any North American 3G bands.

And you expect it to sell a lot, don't you?
I am sure this device's buyers will be the deciding factor for T-Mobile.

By the way, the important part of my post was the fact that the time will come that these devices will be scarce. Now, if you want to disagree about whether it will be in 2013 instead of this year, well, disagree with yourself.
I will remember to let you know the first time I see an Asus Padfone in public transport over here.

[Wireless Junkie]

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...1673378&page=2

http://www.howardforums.com/showthre...2#post14822292

According to the above threads the Telus and Bell HTC One S says PJ40110 on the FCC tag. I am told that is the same as T-Mobile's. And Bell & Telus are HSPA 850/1900 carriers.

So yes the One S does have PCS. And 850 as well.

Mine still gets crappy speed's, where the GS II w/ 1900mhz gets great speeds because our 10mhz AWS is severely overloaded here.

[jarrodpd]

that's strange, i usually pull 10-30Mbps on T-Mobile, Sprint is always sub 300kbps during the day here, cannot even stream a youtube video from the wap site..

first Sprint speedtest:



of course when i'm trying to demonstrate, it has to hit ~.5





let me mind you, this is full signal of 3G at 2am on my Bold 9930 (it's actually worse on my Epic)

LOL sprint is as fast as Verizon in my area thats very interesting. And it's only two/three times faster then my iPhone on EDGE maxing out.

[jarrodpd]

No it doesnt. Just aws and euro 2100.

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The One S doesn't have PCS does it?

Im almost positive that it has the same radio as the Amaze so it should be quad band with 850 AWS 1900 & 2100.

[cmstlist]

Mine still gets crappy speed's, where the GS II w/ 1900mhz gets great speeds because our 10mhz AWS is severely overloaded here.

Try forcing the GS2 to UMTS 1900 using the hidden band select menu, then use Netmonitor to record all the tower IDs you can connect to. Then force it to AWS and do the same.

Then see what tower IDs you can get on the One S.

I wonder if the One S, despite being PCS compatible, just has a lousy radio.

EDIT: Definitive evidence:
http://www.phonedog.com/videos/htc-o...gfight-part-2/
Look at the video circa the 6 minute mark. He's using an AT&T SIM on the T-Mobile One S and it clearly gets HSPA.

[Kies]

The One S has a Qualcomm radio like the GS2/3 N/A version, it does have weak reception though

[brad15]

Your speaking only from your experiences, I know PLENTY of areas that T-Mobile is stuck on GPRS only still in 2012 where Sprint has a solid 1.5mbit/s 3G... You put a blanket over Sprint and T-Mobile like it applies everywhere.

Trust me, T-Mobile is nothing to write home about either.

I'm speaking of experience of driving across country several times, Sprint's 3G does leave something to be desired in most places it is, that's why you can even do a google search about Sprint 3G speeds and get pages among pages of results of people complaining about it.

to be honest, i drive between CA, AZ, OH, FL, and NY and rarely if ever see GPRS on my T-Mobile phone (the only time i ever run into GPRS for any extended amount of time is when i'm roaming on Alltel's old GSM network in western TX and southern OH where nobody has T-Mobile, so they've only left enough service for people passing through, and for the $50/mo i'm saving compared to VZW i can live with that.

I actually referred people back east to Sprint from VZW and T-Moble and the T-Mobile ones are running back like refugees since the data is so horrible (.07Mbps download is what i was told yesterday is what Cleveland is pulling currently)

So no, not just where I use it, it's a good portion of the network that's unusable. Even if you check the Sprint forums here, there are multiple page long discussions about how awful Sprint's 3G is.