Got Scammed with a Samsung Galaxy S2 - Tmobile says IMEI is blocked

**Androided** · 12-29-2011, 03:46 PM

change Samsung S2's IMEI is a piece of cake!
I changed my Samsung S2's IMEI on day one to be able on tzone!
I am glad to accept your blocked Samsung S2'

**cmstlist** · 12-29-2011, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by Androided

change Samsung S2's IMEI is a piece of cake!
I changed my Samsung S2's IMEI on day one to be able on tzone!
I am glad to accept your blocked Samsung S2'

If it's possible, then it's still not an allowed topic on this forum.

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**Babydollll** · 12-29-2011, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by Kies

Deleting that folder results in NO IMEI which will not connect to the T-Mobile network either. And on the Galaxy S II for T-Mobile the IMEI is not stored in the EFS folder, we don't know where it is.

AT&T will definitely work.

T-Mobile can block IMEI's all day long. Verizon and Sprint do it similarly. WE don't even know if this phone was stolen from T-Mobile in which they ALWAYS block the IMEI.

Well it did affect owners of the NS. Some had flashed a ROM on xda which inadvertently wiped the EFS folder causing the phones affected to revert to some Samsung default IMEI.

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**fabricatedhero** · 12-30-2011, 05:17 AM

I would unlock and sell it to a simple mobile user.

It should not be blocked because their a completely different entity than tmobile. Yes simple mobile uses tmo network as their backbone but ask yourself this. How can someone using a bad esn sprint phone be on cricket when cricket uses sprints network.

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**Kies** · 12-30-2011, 05:33 AM

Originally Posted by fabricatedhero

I would unlock and sell it to a simple mobile user.

It should not be blocked because their a completely different entity than tmobile. Yes simple mobile uses tmo network as their backbone but ask yourself this. How can someone using a bad esn sprint phone be on cricket when cricket uses sprints network.

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It doesn't work like that, Simple Mobile uses the T-Mobile *Network* and IMEI blocks are done at the *Network* level.. thus no access.

**cmstlist** · 12-30-2011, 08:57 AM

You know, now that I give this more thought, the deadbeat seller is guilty of false advertising. If someone misrepresents a product they sell you privately, that's fraud. Is there any legal recourse? Consider calling the local non-emergency police line to ask.

**nexus14** · 12-30-2011, 09:02 AM

Originally Posted by cmstlist

You know, now that I give this more thought, the deadbeat seller is guilty of false advertising. If someone misrepresents a product they sell you privately, that's fraud. Is there any legal recourse? Consider calling the local non-emergency police line to ask.

LOL. Craigslist is a site used to advertise as-is sales. There's absolutely no legal recourse you can take unless you signed a contract, which I have never seen done.

**karmakarma777** · 12-30-2011, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by cmstlist

You know, now that I give this more thought, the deadbeat seller is guilty of false advertising. If someone misrepresents a product they sell you privately, that's fraud. Is there any legal recourse? Consider calling the local non-emergency police line to ask.

It's definitely false advertising, but good luck trying to get a big city police force like Chicago PD to help you out with small matters like this. There are other quicker and less aggravating options:

So basically, I got the phone unlocked off ebay. Now it works with an AT&t SIM. But, I'm under a contract with Tmobile for a little bit, so I'll just sell it to someone who's on AT&T, or most carriers in Canada (taking a trip back to my parents in Toronto next week). At least it will work for any of those people, just not for me.

And lesson learned: Never will I buy a phone without checking the ESN/IMEI numbers with the carriers, even if it's GSM.

**Guest 214** · 12-31-2011, 03:11 AM

Originally Posted by jet1000

There's no information that insurance replacements are blacklisted. T-Mobile rep, newguy78, recently posted that T-Mobile is specifically blacklisting phones that were purchased on the EIP payment plan and then not paid off.

This is more outrageous behavior on the part of the execs at T-Mobile USA. They are purposely doing this because they know it will depress the resale market when we go to sell our phones, and more people will buy phones from them.

Even testing a SIM card in the device won't be foolproof as the seller could make payments up to the time of the sale, default afterwards, and one day your device just won't work anymore.

T-Mobile has no legal right to do this. Thus complaints need to be filed with the FTC and the FCC. Perhaps a law firm that specializes in class action lawsuits could be found that would be willing to take this on.

T-Mobile doesn't even have the decency to notify customers that it is doing this nor does it provide them with a website to check that the IMEI numbers are in good standing. This action is so wrong on so many levels.

Oh for god sakes, give it up already. Sprint and Verizon have been legally doing this for years and I think it's great. If you don't pay your house or car payment what happens? Yea.

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**sedds89** · 12-31-2011, 03:20 AM

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**jet1000** · 12-31-2011, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by LTE Fever

If you don't pay your house or car payment what happens? Yea.

Obviously you do not know the difference between secured credit (which is what a house or car would be) and unsecured credit which is what a cell provider extends to its customers. A house or car has a title and the buyer receives a clear title upon a purchase. No such title exists for cell phones. T-Mobile should collect unpaid debts per the laws regarding unsecured credit and has it has no basis to make inoperable the property of rightful owners.

**Androided** · 12-31-2011, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by jet1000

Obviously you do not know the difference between secured credit (which is what a house or car would be) and unsecured credit which is what a cell provider extends to its customers. A house or car has a title and the buyer receives a clear title upon a purchase. No such title exists for cell phones. T-Mobile should collect unpaid debts per the laws regarding unsecured credit and has it has no basis to make inoperable the property of rightful owners.

T-mobile never understands what right doing or wrong doing is!
tmo just screws itself!, they added PPU to everyone is an example!

**brad15** · 12-31-2011, 08:33 PM

Originally Posted by fabricatedhero

I would unlock and sell it to a simple mobile user.

It should not be blocked because their a completely different entity than tmobile. Yes simple mobile uses tmo network as their backbone but ask yourself this. How can someone using a bad esn sprint phone be on cricket when cricket uses sprints network.

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Cricket actually has it's own network/switches, it just has a roaming agreement with Sprint in non-cricket markets, and on CDMA it just asks the phone's home switch (based of ESN/MEID and Phone Number in phone) if it's allowed to make calls/texts/data, not necessarily the network that it's currently on (ie Sprint in this case)

**SauceMaster** · 01-05-2012, 01:59 AM

Originally Posted by jet1000

Obviously you do not know the difference between secured credit (which is what a house or car would be) and unsecured credit which is what a cell provider extends to its customers. A house or car has a title and the buyer receives a clear title upon a purchase. No such title exists for cell phones. T-Mobile should collect unpaid debts per the laws regarding unsecured credit and has it has no basis to make inoperable the property of rightful owners.

Yes , let's blame T-mobile cause some scumbag decided to sell a phone I'm pretty sure he knew didn't work.

Seriously ?

If it was blacklisted cause of not finishing EIP payment plan , then technically it's still T-Mobile's phone till that obligation is paid off. If it was reported stolen , again they have a right to blacklist it. If they didn't then people would abuse that loop-hole and report their old phone stolen , get a new phone and sell the old phone for profit.

So again how is T-mobile the bad guy again ? They didn't sell him that phone.

**MasonDoctorJT** · 01-05-2012, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by SauceMaster

Yes , let's blame T-mobile cause some scumbag decided to sell a phone I'm pretty sure he knew didn't work.

Seriously ?

If it was blacklisted cause of not finishing EIP payment plan , then technically it's still T-Mobile's phone till that obligation is paid off. If it was reported stolen , again they have a right to blacklist it. If they didn't then people would abuse that loop-hole and report their old phone stolen , get a new phone and sell the old phone for profit.

So again how is T-mobile the bad guy again ? They didn't sell him that phone.

+1... I don't know how anyone could conclude that t-mobile is in the wrong for this. If someone steals my phone, I hope the person who gets it can't use it.

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