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    iPhone 4 to Boost Mobile CDMA

    'ello all,

    Upon hearing of CDMA iPhones being successfully flashed to Cricket and MetroPCS, I would assume a flash to Boost Mobile would be possible.

    From the looks of it, it seems all that is required is a jailbreak, installing an app or two from Cydia, and ultimately replacing the original CDMA carrier PRL with the one of the desired carrier.

    So the phone is set up for the carrier and the phone has to actually be activated with the carrier...
    It would seem best to use a Sprint iPhone instead of a Verizon iPhone, unless a customer rep. says it's good to go, but unsupported as a Sprint phone.

    - Would a Boost CDMA PRL work in either a Sprint or Verizon iPhone if Metro and Cricket can do it?

    - Would it make a difference to use Sprint iPhone over Verizon or vice versa?

    - Is it illegal to switch the ESN's of an iPhone and an old, inactive Sprint phone of mine?

    Thanks all!
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    Quote Originally Posted by birdhouse1575 View Post
    What is the jail time for ESN cloning?
    Not sure about jail time, but is it really worth the risk of carrying a federal offense on your record?

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    I am a little confused. My Verizon phone was able to roam on GSM because they used TDMA. Tell it was shutdown. The phone recognizes it as Analog. If PCS has TDMA, It could be technically be used on GSM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by birdhouse1575 View Post
    - Is it illegal to switch the ESN's of an iPhone and an old, inactive Sprint phone of mine?
    Yes, it is illegal.

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    you cant change the esn of an iphone. you don't need to change the esn to make it work on cricket, you do on boost.
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    OP, editing your post won't make your question about jail time for ESN cloning won't work when someone has already quoted it in their reply.
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    You know what would be truly amazing? If someone would just answer the OP's damn questions instead of pissing and moaning about laws and picking apart the O.P with trivial nuances... just a thought.
    If I'm asking a question, it's because I've searched this forum and Google (which also searches this forum) and not found anything relevant/the correct answer... Don't tell me to "search!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTenthLetter View Post
    You know what would be truly amazing? If someone would just answer the OP's damn questions instead of pissing and moaning about laws and picking apart the O.P with trivial nuances... just a thought.
    The OP's question was answered in post #2 and #3. Whether it is technically feasible or how to do so will not be allowed on this forum. There is nothing wrong with further comments after that to clarify or confirm information. I know some forums that would have deleted his thread for even asking such a question. Sorry if you aren't happy with mine or any other response. We can even agree to disagree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTenthLetter View Post
    You know what would be truly amazing? If someone would just answer the OP's damn questions instead of pissing and moaning about laws and picking apart the O.P with trivial nuances... just a thought.
    You know what would be truly amazing? If you actually read the OP's questions and the responses. The questions were answered. The fact that what the OP wants to do requires an illegal step negates the other questions for discussion on this forum. Doing something illegal isn't a "trivial nuance." Just a thought.

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    Actually, the discussion is allowed (and has been, for awhile), it's posting specific how-to instructions that is still verboten. Here's the answer, in a nutshell:

    There is presently no publicly known solution for altering a CDMA iPhone's MEID. If you badly want an iPhone on prepaid, the AT&T variant is still your best bet. It can be used on GoPhone, AT&T MVNOs like Red Pocket, H20 and Straight Talk. If you absolutely can't stand AT&T, some people have had success getting the Verizon iPhone onto Page Plus, but it the process seems shady (you need to pay a Page Plus dealer who's willing to bend the rules).

    While there is probably some money to be made in being able to alter an iPhone's MEID (legal issues aside), Apple is known for locking things down more than any reasonable electronics manufacturer should, so I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a breakthrough. And before someone says "Well, it's been done before on phone X!" Well yeah, if Apple was like Samsung and still used the same years old default password on their brand new phones, certainly. But Apple has a ginormous stiffy for security, and it shows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gotanmp3 View Post
    If you absolutely can't stand AT&T, some people have had success getting the Verizon iPhone onto Page Plus, but it the process seems shady (you need to pay a Page Plus dealer who's willing to bend the rules).
    I thought moving a VZW iPhone to PPC was no issue at all. Why do you think that the dealer would have to bend any rules?

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    Quote Originally Posted by XFF View Post
    I thought moving a VZW iPhone to PPC was no issue at all. Why do you think that the dealer would have to bend any rules?
    Last I heard, iPhones aren't supposed to be allowed on Page Plus. Some dealers were activating them anyway, even though Page Plus told them they're not supposed to. Things do change, however, and I could be mistaken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gotanmp3 View Post
    Actually, the discussion is allowed (and has been, for awhile), it's posting specific how-to instructions that is still verboten. Here's the answer, in a nutshell:

    There is presently no publicly known solution for altering a CDMA iPhone's MEID. If you badly want an iPhone on prepaid, the AT&T variant is still your best bet. It can be used on GoPhone, AT&T MVNOs like Red Pocket, H20 and Straight Talk. If you absolutely can't stand AT&T, some people have had success getting the Verizon iPhone onto Page Plus, but it the process seems shady (you need to pay a Page Plus dealer who's willing to bend the rules).

    While there is probably some money to be made in being able to alter an iPhone's MEID (legal issues aside), Apple is known for locking things down more than any reasonable electronics manufacturer should, so I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a breakthrough. And before someone says "Well, it's been done before on phone X!" Well yeah, if Apple was like Samsung and still used the same years old default password on their brand new phones, certainly. But Apple has a ginormous stiffy for security, and it shows.

    Thank you. This is more along the lines of the type of response I was looking for -- i.e helpful and informative.

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    Hey, guess what sticklers? Found this little slice of info over at iphone-developers forum. So basically, anyone who has been saying "oh this is sooo illegal, wahhhh!!"... eat one.

    Boost has a classification called "Other" in their system. They will certainly turn it on, but it is the responsibility of the USER to get the phone flashed to accept their network. How do I know this? I have an iPhone 4 currently running on Boost. End of discussion: the answer is yes.

    Furthermore, it is not illegal to clone your own ESN. The ESN is assigned to your hardware that you use. It is against the law to engage in fraud (for instance to defraud a company out of payment by cloning your ESN). I love you google lawyers who think you know everything. You can definitely re-assign your ESN to another device to get it functioning on sevice you pay for and use in good faith.

    The law that you are referring to was written a long time ago when ESN cloning was used to steal cell service. There is existing case law and precendent that supports lawful ESN cloning, in fact, your phone company does it regularly (and they are not the manufacturer of the phone who applied for the block of ESN numbers so they are not entitled directly under the old law that you are referring to, to do so)
    source: http://forum.iphone-developers.com/g...html#post10532


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTenthLetter View Post
    Hey, guess what sticklers? Found this little slice of info over at iphone-developers forum. So basically, anyone who has been saying "oh this is sooo illegal, wahhhh!!"... eat one.



    source: http://forum.iphone-developers.com/g...html#post10532

    One single post about someone *claiming* to have an iPhone on Boost, and that cloning(which is illegal) to even your own phone might be somehow legal(self justification most likely), without one shred of proof..makes it so. LOL! you're naive as they come. I'm sure it happens, but don't count on it being safe as they make it sound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTenthLetter View Post
    Found this little slice of info over at iphone-developers forum.
    Stop the press, someone with a post count of "1" claims to have an iPhone running on Boost!

    Legal or not, when it is doable by the average weekend warrior with free (or "free") software available online, you can bet eBay and Craigslist will be flooded with ads from people offering their CDMA iPhone to Boost flashing services. Until then, you may as well believe anyone claiming an iPhone on Boost used Harry Potter magic to accomplish it, because it's just as likely to be true.

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