Your sales person is wrong. The phone is NOT LTE capable.
I have a couple of questions.
When I purchased the Galaxy IIs X, the Telus sales person told me this phone is LTE capable. I did not purchase based on LTE capable, however, it would be a nice bonus if it is LTE capable. Can someone confirm if Galaxy IIsX is LTE capable?
The 2nd question is also a LTE related question. I am guessing since Bell and Telus share a network in Ontario, that Bell will start sharing the LTE capabilities sometime in the future, will Telus force customers with LTE capable devices to sign to a different plan or extend their existing plan and just require customers to purchase a LTE capable SIM?
Thank You in advance for anyone answering these questions.
Your sales person is wrong. The phone is NOT LTE capable.
Hi Phone expert, are your sure, this phone supports 3GPP and AWS bands, according to 3GPP specs, 3GPP is a standard for LTE. If Telus is using 700mhz spectrum for LTE, this phone does not have 700 Mhz band, then it would not support LTE.
When I look at Bell Mobility specs for their LTE LG phone, their LTE bands are 700/1700, the Samsung Galaxy IIs X has 1700 AWS band, if both bands are required, then I suspect the Galaxy will not support LTE which is not an issue.
Here is the 3GPP org info : http://www.3gpp.org/LTE
1. 3GPP is the governing body for many telecom standards and technologies - NOT to be confused with the context as an "umbrella" jargon for all specifications as a particular device is capable of. At this point, LTE is the 3GPP Release 8 and beyond while UMTS/HSPA covered in the 3GPP Release 99, 4 to 7... http://www.3gpp.org/releases
2. Both FCC and Industry Canada has NO specific criteria of what specific 3GPP standards / technologies the spectrum licensees must be deployed. The carriers, for example, in the Canadian AWS spectrum have different paths... Rogers, Bell and soon TELUS deploy the LTE network in their AWS spectrum while WIND, Mobilicity and Videotron have deployed the UMTS network in their AWS spectrum. In the US, MetoPCS, for example, has even deployed CDMA network in its AWS spectrum.
3. The 700MHz spectrum (not yet reallocated for mobile telecom in Canada), again, has no specific criteria of whatever air-interfaces the licensees must deploy. In fact, some 700MHz channels are going to be digital TV broadcast while some are for public service / first-responder communications... http://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/smt-gst...g/sf09962.html
4. The Samsung Galaxy S II X SGH-T989D from TELUS has support the AWS band operations in UMTS/HSPA+ -but NOT LTE certified by Industry Canada and FCC...
See FCC Part 27 Certification for A3LSGHT989D: https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repor...A3LSGHT989D%27
See the AWS emission designators in the Industry Canada certification for 649E-SGHT989D: http://www.ic.gc.ca/app/sitt/reltel/...ch.do?lang=eng
If there is any LTE capability, there will be a another emission designator along with different set of test filed to FCC and Industry Canada by regulations.Originally Posted by Certification and Engineering Bureau
Last edited by HC - NO "i"; 01-13-2012 at 07:27 PM.
HC - NO "i"
I am NOT "the" HC, we are TWO different individuals!
"If we amplify everything, we hear nothing!" - Jon Stewart, Comedian
Um...... maybe check this out....
Samsung Galaxy SIIX / HTC Touch Pro 2 / HTC Touch Diamond / LG 535 / Nokia 252
Maybe consider these first...
1. Any radio device that emits RF energy in the regulated spectrum in Canada and US must require certification with Industry Canada and FCC. The Samsung Galaxy S II X SGH-T989D from TELUS has NEITHER got any 700MHz spectrum operation, nor the LTE operation filed at the regulatory bodies.
2. The Test Mode screen is only showing part of the picture. First the baseband software, in this case both TLS and TMB variants have NOT got the required band(s) to operate in LTE.
3. Even the Qualcomm baseband hardware supports whichever band(s) and air-interface(s), it DOES NOT a particular manufacturers would make use of all combo. It can be physically crippled in at the foundry when making the chips, for example.
If anyone want to settle it once and for all, one could set up a signal generator, signal analyzer hooked up to a signal isolation box with a retail, SIM-lock free unit of Samsung Galaxy S II X SGH-T989D from TELUS, run the simulations in the LTE Band 4 (AWS)... Then we can be eliminate any "what if".
In other words, we must have ALL 3 elements fulfilled in order to get the LTE service in the LTE Band 4 (AWS), 13 (700MHz, Verizon), 17 (700MHz, at&t):
- The actual hardware capability
- The required software to work with the hardware
- The carrier network accessibility
Missing either one of them would not work. But in the current form, I have not yet seen any luck with Rogers and Bell LTE service first hand with an unlocked Samsung Galaxy S II X SGH-T989D from TELUS and the active Rogers and Bell LTE SIM cards provisioned to have LTE service in the AWS band.
Do not take everything we read - even what I have written - as "facts" or "potentials" without thorough understanding of how things really work. Sure, if someone has the kind of technical resources from Qualcomm, Samsung and the carriers, the sky is limit and the Future is Friendly. I too rather want to see someone can come up with a solution. Scrutinizing every single aspect is logical but NOT giving the conclusion based on misinformation.
Last edited by HC - NO "i"; 01-14-2012 at 01:02 AM.
Guess the answer is no.
Unless our latter run of phones included a newer modem.
Well, indications are is that our modems are mdm9200's, upon reading that entire thread. ....
Guess there is not definite answer, yet ....
Last edited by KuenCh; 01-15-2012 at 11:46 AM.
No definitive answer? Or you are discounting the evidences and first hand experiences? Perhaps we would only care for the answer favouring us. So...