Well, it "is" unlimited, just not unlimited 3G. Primetechv2 seems to think it can't be both.
Will our phones really be switching to 1X mode after 2.5GB? If they do then you have successfully proved me wrong. If the icon says "3G" then the 3G is obviously being limited...
You guys can argue with the pessimist all you want but I'm trying to make a case here for false advertising.
1X only supports speeds up to 153k (and even that is peak theoretical speed) so there's no way they could push 256k through it. It should also be noted that even 256k qualifies as 3G by ITU standards.
256k is not 1x but slow 3g. 1xrtt max peak speeds are only 144 k, way under 256k. I wouldn't give Simple Mobile so much guff if they had speeds similar on their $40 "3g" (roflmao) but they don't so oh well. Even Tmo's throttle is way more severe from what I understand. After 100 mb/2gb/5gb of "4g" level hspa plus speeds you get like 60k, not even peak edge/2gsm. I'd love if gsm carriers throttled at 256k.
If you cut off someones unlimited data then its not unlimited
I think they base "unlimited" on how much the average constomer consumes.
It's just like an All You Can Eat Buffet. Most people eat what they can, pay, and leave. But there's always the occasional jerk that will abuse the "all you can eat" and bring little baggies and fill them into his girlfriend's purse. The buffet starts losing out on money, so they raise the buffet price.
I think they base "unlimited" on how much the average constomer consumes.
It's just like an All You Can Eat Buffet. Most people eat what they can, pay, and leave. But there's always the occasional jerk that will abuse the "all you can eat" and bring little baggies and fill them into his girlfriend's purse. The buffet starts losing out on money, so they raise the buffet price.
Your analogy regarding the buffet brings up an interesting point. This notion of "unlimited data" regardless how it's being used by the customer is a false argument. A restaurant patron who purchases an AYCE buffet then proceeds to load up plates for other people sitting in the restaurant (who may or may not have paid) will get tossed out on the street rather quickly. Restaurants can rightfully restrict how customers may consume a product which is advertised as unlimited.
When you turn your VM phone into a wi-fi hotspot, you are essentially distributing their data product to others who are not necessarily paying for it. You are also violating the TOS even if you're not letting others "eat off your plate" so to speak.
Unlimited does not mean unrestricted. That's essentially what VM's data plan has become now: a restricted but theoretically unlimited data plan. The restrictions were put in place because some people decided to test the limits of VM's generosity. Now those same folks are trying to blame the carrier for being dishonest.
It's amazing how some people can remain indignant even when they're the ones creating the mess to begin with.
When you turn your VM phone into a wi-fi hotspot, you are essentially distributing their data product to others who are not necessarily paying for it. You are also violating the TOS even if you're not letting others "eat off your plate" so to speak.
Unlimited does not mean unrestricted. That's essentially what VM's data plan has become now: a restricted but theoretically unlimited data plan. The restrictions were put in place because some people decided to test the limits of VM's generosity. Now those same folks are trying to blame the carrier for being dishonest.
It's amazing how some people can remain indignant even when they're the ones creating the mess to begin with.
Speaking of bad analogies... If I borrow my phone to a friend, I'm breaking contract agreements. If I tether to five of my own devices, I have done nothing wrong.
Speaking of bad analogies... If I borrow my phone to a friend, I'm breaking contract agreements. If I tether to five of my own devices, I have done nothing wrong.
You obviously haven't read the TOS with your Virgin Mobile plan. Tethering your phone to even one device is a violation. Those terms expressly forbid using your phone as a hotspot for a laptop or any other device that consumes data.
You can keep justifying your behavior in any fashion you like, but there's documentation that proves such action is grounds for having an account terminated.
You obviously haven't read the TOS with your Virgin Mobile plan. Tethering your phone to even one device is a violation. Those terms expressly forbid using your phone as a hotspot for a laptop or any other device that consumes data.
You can keep justifying your behavior in any fashion you like, but there's documentation that proves such action is grounds for having an account terminated.
I think it's reasonable. At $25 I really can't imagine there's a whole lot of profit in it. Then again, if you're using the everything unlimited plan, then that's a problem because they aren't throttling Boost as far as I know.
But the real reason they're doing this is to reduce the load for the Sprint users.
Originally Posted by cookedgoose
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