I was referring to t-mobile, considering the other carriers blocked or didn't include tethering until they started to charge for it. Unlike t-mobile who advertised tethering as a phone feature in manuals, boxes, ads online, specs, etc until about a year and a half ago, and didn't even grandfather old users. At&t charged from the get go.
That's correct, T-Mobile picked up an AT&T tactic.
As Jet has pointed out, AT&T has a lower churn rating, so they are probably implementing a similar policy.
AT&T costs $30 for 3GB with zero official tethering, T-Mobile charges $30 for 5GB with official tethering. You still get more value on T-Mobile
Originally Posted by jet1000
The facts are that AT&T doesn't throttle their unlimited plans at 5GB or 2GB or whatever T-Mobile is doing these days...
LIES!
Facts are, life is better on the T-Mobile side
I wouldn't have minded so much if they made it required with the new data plans, grandfather like normal. Instead they disabled it on my existing account from 2003.
Did they disable it on your old phone that had it, or did it stop working when you get a new phone?
I wouldn't have minded so much if they made it required with the new data plans, grandfather like normal. Instead they disabled it on my existing account from 2003.
Disabled it via the network. Sent me a text November 2010 saying they are taking away my wifi hotspot and to pay for it.
A user agent switcher gets around it, but a pita. lol.
If you want it free just root your phone if you are against paying for it..
Doesn't always work for T-Mobile. As danska stated they have a block where they look for a pc browser, so you have to use a user agent switcher to get around it. That has its own limitations.
Originally Posted by LTE Fever
Not charging for the service is lowering the ARPU and is not good for any company. People will pay for it and thats lost revenue.
They lose revenue because of their own mismanagement. The block that is on danska's line was only added to a tiny fraction of lines to begin with. Second, even though they have been selling this feature for quite awhile, they would still permit the hotspot feature in gingerbread to be active in the android devices they were selling. When they released the Amaze and SGSII, they decided to block it by having the hotspot feature route through a special APN that could check to see if the tethering feature was added. That could be avoided by a root.
My point is, if they're going to be so incompetent anyway, and they're adding the feature to the 5GB and 10GB plans, they might as well add it to the 2GB plan as well. Really, what they gain in goodwill is going to be more than the ARPU they might gain. Most of their customers are going to get around this anyway, as there are way too many loopholes. I know that customers will have said they got a different device that permits tethering rather than pay the $15 per month.
They lose revenue because of their own mismanagement. The block that is on danska's line was only added to a tiny fraction of lines to begin with. Second, even though they have been selling this feature for quite awhile, they would still permit the hotspot feature in gingerbread to be active in the android devices they were selling. When they released the Amaze and SGSII, they decided to block it by having the hotspot feature route through a special APN that could check to see if the tethering feature was added. That could be avoided by a root.
My point is, if they're going to be so incompetent anyway, and they're adding the feature to the 5GB and 10GB plans, they might as well add it to the 2GB plan as well. Really, what they gain in goodwill is going to be more than the ARPU they might gain. Most of their customers are going to get around this anyway, as there are way too many loopholes. I know that customers will have said they got a different device that permits tethering rather than pay the $15 per month.
They will find ways to block it, and quite frankly thats just fine by me. They are trying to get rid of their cheap customer's that are costing them money, and if its going to help the network and help them stay competitive on everything else, then thats just fine by me.
Seriously if everyone is too cheap to pay $15 a month for tethering, they either don't need a cell phone or need prepaid.
They will find ways to block it, and quite frankly thats just fine by me.
Their history demonstrates they have very little competence in the area of blocking tethering successfully. They release devices with tethering enabled. Now they're even removing restrictions on some plans to tethering (probably because they don't want to devote the resources to block it further.) So your statement about them finding ways to block it, is far from certain.
As far as it being fine with you, I don't think you even have a T-mobile account do you? So it's fine by me that AT&T is throttling your LTE use at 2GB while you're on an unlimited plan. It's fine by me that AT&T is giving unthrottled speeds to customers on tiered plans while they're throttling you. The AT&T forum contains many complaints from you. Perhaps (as you said), if you're too cheap to pay for a tiered plan, then perhaps you don't need a cell phone or you should head for the land of prepaid.
If you want to be an advocate for what T-Mobile is doing, and you think their service is such a value, why not port your AT&T number over to T-Mobile and enjoy the good life?
Their history demonstrates they have very little competence in the area of blocking tethering successfully. They release devices with tethering enabled. Now they're even removing restrictions on some plans to tethering (probably because they don't want to devote the resources to block it further.) So your statement about them finding ways to block it, is far from certain.
As far as it being fine with you, I don't think you even have a T-mobile account do you? So it's fine by me that AT&T is throttling your LTE use at 2GB while you're on an unlimited plan. It's fine by me that AT&T is giving unthrottled speeds to customers on tiered plans while they're throttling you. The AT&T forum contains many complaints from you. Perhaps (as you said), if you're too cheap to pay for a tiered plan, then perhaps you don't need a cell phone or you should head for the land of prepaid.
If you want to be an advocate for what T-Mobile is doing, and you think their service is such a value, why not port your AT&T number over to T-Mobile and enjoy the good life?
Actually I do have a T-Mobile line thank you very much. And if I was like the rest of the 90% of Atlanta and stayed primarily in the metro, I wouldn't have a need for AT&T and Verizon.
When I am in the metro area where AT&T does have their LTE, I find that T-Mobile HSPA+ 42 works just fine and the call quality is much better than AT&T's HR crap.
Doesn't always work for T-Mobile. As danska stated they have a block where they look for a pc browser, so you have to use a user agent switcher to get around it. That has its own limitations.
They lose revenue because of their own mismanagement. The block that is on danska's line was only added to a tiny fraction of lines to begin with. Second, even though they have been selling this feature for quite awhile, they would still permit the hotspot feature in gingerbread to be active in the android devices they were selling. When they released the Amaze and SGSII, they decided to block it by having the hotspot feature route through a special APN that could check to see if the tethering feature was added. That could be avoided by a root.
My point is, if they're going to be so incompetent anyway, and they're adding the feature to the 5GB and 10GB plans, they might as well add it to the 2GB plan as well. Really, what they gain in goodwill is going to be more than the ARPU they might gain. Most of their customers are going to get around this anyway, as there are way too many loopholes. I know that customers will have said they got a different device that permits tethering rather than pay the $15 per month.
This is a lie. Virgin mobile doesn't support official tether. In fact you now have to root the phone in order to enable the feature.
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Originally Posted by jet1000
Virgin Mobile.
Doesn't always work for T-Mobile. As danska stated they have a block where they look for a pc browser, so you have to use a user agent switcher to get around it. That has its own limitations.
They lose revenue because of their own mismanagement. The block that is on danska's line was only added to a tiny fraction of lines to begin with. Second, even though they have been selling this feature for quite awhile, they would still permit the hotspot feature in gingerbread to be active in the android devices they were selling. When they released the Amaze and SGSII, they decided to block it by having the hotspot feature route through a special APN that could check to see if the tethering feature was added. That could be avoided by a root.
My point is, if they're going to be so incompetent anyway, and they're adding the feature to the 5GB and 10GB plans, they might as well add it to the 2GB plan as well. Really, what they gain in goodwill is going to be more than the ARPU they might gain. Most of their customers are going to get around this anyway, as there are way too many loopholes. I know that customers will have said they got a different device that permits tethering rather than pay the $15 per month.
This is a lie. Virgin mobile doesn't support official tether. In fact you now have to root the phone in order to enable the feature.
This is a lie. Virgin mobile doesn't support official tether.
The question that LTE Fever posed never used the terminology "support official tether".
His question was:
What other US carrier include's tethering?
Any tethering done is certainly included in the price of the service as Virgin Mobile has no add-on price for tethering. Go ahead and check their rate card for yourself. There are the devices such as the Optimus V that you can tether with without even a custom rom or root.
Contrary to what you post, those are the facts. There is no add-on charge for Virgin Mobile tethering.
The question that LTE Fever posed never used the terminology "support official tether".
His question was:
What other US carrier include's tethering?
Any tethering done is certainly included in the price of the service as Virgin Mobile has no add-on price for tethering. Go ahead and check their rate card for yourself. There are the devices such as the Optimus V that you can tether with without even a custom rom or root.
Contrary to what you post, those are the facts. There is no add-on charge for Virgin Mobile tethering.
That feature has been removed from newer optimus phones, and others like the HTC wildfire. And you can tether older Android phones on T-Mobile prepaid, like the LG optimus T.
You can modify any Android phone to tether without paying for add ons. The same holds true for T-Mobile (prepaid monthly). What's your point?
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Originally Posted by danska
LIES!
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