Duramax first thoughts (SDC)

[Protagonist]

I have had the chance to use SDC on the Motorola Admiral and I was very impressed. I have never been a big ptt user, but I remember how terrible ready link was and SDC is far better.

[NGeorge]

I was reading that they are just going to release an app to the android market that allows any android phone to be SDC capable.

While it won't have a physical button, it will be "close". Kinda cool if you ask me. Good for casual users.

That would be great! It'd be nice if you could assign a device button... e.g. the camera button.

That said, I couldn't see Sprint pulling off something that smoothly

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[irev210]

That would be great! It'd be nice if you could assign a device button... e.g. the camera button.

That said, I couldn't see Sprint pulling off something that smoothly

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Yeah, the video focused on how you need a critical mass to make PTT work, so the app would help develop that critical mass.

[NGeorge]

Yeah, the video focused on how you need a critical mass to make PTT work, so the app would help develop that critical mass.

Well it's great that they didn't forget that! Any timeline?

I still think the major reason why PTT on Nextel was so successful was because if you had Nextel, you had PTT--and if your friends/coworkers had Nextel, they also had PTT--and it was part of the plans (and even if they didn't have the plan, it was still active for a per-minute rate)

I know tons of people on Verizon--and only one with a PTT-capable phone. I'm pretty sure that he doesn't have the plan, so even if I had a similar phone with PTT I couldn't message him. I know noone with AT&T's ptt, and I know a fleet of users of US Cellular's PTT (that would be the local Sheriff's office)--but that is their work lines and noone else has it.

Sprint had an opportunity with it's PowerSource phones and blew it--They couldn't roam on non-1900 mhz. networks (pretty much anything except Cricket/Metro and Verizon in TX and some small pockets) for some reason, and they either said screw it, or sorely overestimated the coverage of their network/underestimated the value of roaming. They also couldn't convince anyone else to manufacture them (or Moto wouldn't license the IDEN side to anyone else).

When QChat came out, I wondered why they didn't burn the software into ALL their phones--at least they would have PTT in Rev. A areas--but now that I look back, they probably realized how flakey it was, and didn't want the CS nightmare of people with freezing phones and PTT that didn't work in all areas.

So now it sounds like with QChat2 they may be ready to finally do this--and if they do--it might just work.

I am not convinced PTT is dead. I still love the concept. I just think that for the majority of people PTT is a "it is nice to have" feature and not a "I am going to buy my phone because it has PTT" feature. I knew a lot of consumers on Nextel until around 2006--it used to be the "cool" carrier--but then the Iphone and smartphones and fast data happened, and that superseded PTT as the cool thing. Would these people still like and use PTT? Yep! Would they drop their Iphone or Galaxy or Nexus? Nope.

I have a feeling that if IDEN would have been a technology that could be upgraded to data that is as fast as Rev. A EV-DO, with PTT on all the devices, Sprint (or Nextel itself if the merger would have happened--I'm not sure it would have if IDEN wasn't such a dead end) would still have a LARGE base of PTT users, and they wouldn't have had to force users to make a "PTT vs. data" decision on their devices... and could have just moved everything into LTE.

--Nat

[billm261]

Sprint had an opportunity with it's PowerSource phones and blew it--They couldn't roam on non-1900 mhz. networks (pretty much anything except Cricket/Metro and Verizon in TX and some small pockets) for some reason, and they either said screw it, or sorely overestimated the coverage of their network/underestimated the value of roaming. They also couldn't convince anyone else to manufacture them (or Moto wouldn't license the IDEN side to anyone else).

I used an ic902 for a while and loved the phone. It didn't receive a great IDEN signal but it was good enough.

Smartphones started creeping in around that time and I really think a Blackberry or Palm Power Source Device would have been the bomb.

If I remember correctly they couldn't roam on 800 due to interference with the IDEN side of it.

[503ducati]

If the Duramax gets dirty at least it's easy to clean. @7:50 mark

[morningpride]

Quick update. Have been having some weird issues with missing incoming calls (going straight to voicemail) and delayed text. Happy to see that S released the fix for the Duramax and Duracore today.

http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/86504

Jeffro