I'm really getting tired of the WP bashing

[IOWA]

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Hacking/modding has nothing to do with being a smartphone. Before iOS5, the iDevices were also barely what you could call a modern smart phone. The fact is, iOS/WP7 is still catching up to what Symbian, WinMo, and now Android have been doing for years already. Insulting? No. Accurate? Yes.

EDIT: let me ask you something. When did you begin using 'smartphones'. What was your first 'smartphone'?



My first smartphone was an I-Mate K-Jam running WM5 and that's going back about five years. Secondly, I am well aware of what constitutes a smartphone as I used to sell the things for a living. I've used all of the OS platforms out there from Symbian to Blackberry to IOS to WM5, 6.1 and 6.5 and of course, Android. So far the only phone/platform I have used that I have not lost patience with is my WP7. As for being power users, my husband uses an HD7 for both business and leisure. Considering he is in upper management, he needs a phone that just works and works well. We are both what you would consider power users who rely on our devices heavily 24/7. Being patronizing without having all the facts is a less than comely behavior by the way.

Just because you sell something that doesn't make you an expert on the subject. By your logic, the Best Buy and its Geek Squad should be super experts on all things Computer related!

...we all know that's certainly not the case.

I supposed my biggest turn off for WP7 is it just reminds me of a portible XBox. If I wanted that, I'd carry a Nintendo DSi. Considering I depend on my communication devices for my entire living, stabilty, functionality, and usability is also very important to me.

He likes WP7 and he's comfortable with it. That's great! I'm happy for him and you. Everyone has their own personal tastes and requirements. And ill be the first to say you need to be a bit more technically inclined to get the most out of Android. Some people aren't like this and it's OK. Different strokes for different folks, and hopefully these different strokes keep pushing the technology forward like it has been going.

However, Android is still the most robust platform with the most possibilities that exists today that is in major production across the globe. If you disagree, prove me wrong please. I'm the type who likes to have the latest and greatest, regardless of platform, so by all means let me know what has more capabilities and power. Please.

And believe me, I'm a statistical monster. I have a bit of an addicition to information, which is both a caveat and benefit. I've reviewed more facts / statistics than you'd ever imagine, trust me on this. I'm a strange person, yeh.

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[JonLe3]

if i can browse pinterest on my phone, i don't give a s(#t what OS it runs

[lvmychryblsmrzr]

[QUOTE=IOWA;14711650]

Just because you sell something that doesn't make you an expert on the subject. By your logic, the Best Buy and its Geek Squad should be super experts on all things Computer related!

...we all know that's certainly not the case.

I supposed my biggest turn off for WP7 is it just reminds me of a portible XBox. If I wanted that, I'd carry a Nintendo DSi. Considering I depend on my communication devices for my entire living, stabilty, functionality, and usability is also very important to me.

He likes WP7 and he's comfortable with it. That's great! I'm happy for him and you. Everyone has their own personal tastes and requirements. And ill be the first to say you need to be a bit more technically inclined to get the most out of Android. Some people aren't like this and it's OK. Different strokes for different folks, and hopefully these different strokes keep pushing the technology forward like it has been going.

However, Android is still the most robust platform with the most possibilities that exists today that is in major production across the globe. If you disagree, prove me wrong please. I'm the type who likes to have the latest and greatest, regardless of platform, so by all means let me know what has more capabilities and power. Please.

And believe me, I'm a statistical monster. I have a bit of an addicition to information, which is both a caveat and benefit. I've reviewed more facts / statistics than you'd ever imagine, trust me on this. I'm a strange person, yeh.

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I will grant you that some sales people only know as much about the products they're selling as what is printed on the box. This is not the case with me as wireless technology is a passion of mine. I don't have a problem with the fact that others prefer a different kind of phone than I happen to prefer. What I do have a problem with is the banner-carrying fanboys calling my particular preference S***. I've used Android devices, rooted them, installed ROMS. (I preferred Cyanogen ROMS) It's fun to tinker with but not stable enough for what I use it for. It's like having an old Camaro to toy with and a newer Impala as a daily driver.

[KingBuzzo]

Definitely bitter when the worst platform wins - the consumer suffers.

Android is flying off the shelves because the salespeople are pushing it - you can't even ask for a Windows Phone without being pushed on Android.

Hopefully things will change with Nokia and some spiffs for the sales to even the playing-field.

Try Goobling that but make sure you aren't logged into gMail and clear your cookies - your privacy is at risk...

[IOWA]

Yeah, don't get me started on (some) sales people, that's an entirely different subject lol...

Wireless technology is also a passion of mine as well. And CM7 is currently what I have on all of my Android devices, because it is the most useful, and I dislike SenseUI/TouchWiz. But that's one of the greatest parts about Android, it can be changed. Try that with WP7 or iOS.. it's not going to happen. You're stuck with the ugly tile interface for the life of the phone. Or you're stuck with countless rows of icons with little way to organize them.

Personal preference is great, and it's personal. You prefer WP7, and that's great. You have your reasons for your preference and I appreciate that. But your delusions of stability on the Android platform are just that, delusions. Since version 2.1 Android has been extremely stable, and that says a lot for a company who just got into building operating systems. And the fact that it is outperforming both iOS and WP7 on the market, as well as speed and capability says worlds of what Google is capable of. And I assure you, Android is perfectly stable. I have zero issues with it's stability.

If I couldn't rely on my phone, I would switch in a heartbeat, because that's how I am. Is WP7 "S***"? No, it serves it's purpose and some people genuinely like the platform. If you're heavy into the Microsoft thing (live messenger, xbox, hotmail, etc) than it makes sense that WP7 is for you.

[MasonDoctorJT]

Let them bash. Especially the android crowd. My nexus s, despite being a dev phone straight from Google has been force closing left and right since the day I got it.

The damn thing won't even let me use Skype and browse Facebook at the same time without grinding to a snails pace!

The stability of the iOS and WP7 platforms is something no android phone can provide. The inherit problem is that the androids force fluidity and smoothness by specs, but time and time again the iPhones and wp7 have shown you don't need super speed x level classified chips to do basic tasks.

Maybe you have a bad phone then.. Read this http://phandroid.com/2012/02/03/andr...-surprise-you/
I agree that WP7 is the most stable, even when running it on an HD2 that wasn't even meant to be run on, but don't bash android because you like WP7. I would use WP7 and might now that with WP8 they might support mass storage and micro sd. The other reason I didn't switch to WP7 was needing Zune to transfer files. They do away with that and I think I'll be on the WP bandwagon, until then, android is the closest thing to wm6.5 which I really liked.

[MasonDoctorJT]

Havent had any of those issues with my Androids since i had 1.6 on my X10,since 2.1 its been very smooth sailing. My GS2 and GT10.1 havent EVER froze, or rebooted, Android has been incredibly reliable and has proved to be a seriously powerful tool.

Uh oh. The WP fanboys are starting to turn into Mac fanboys. You know how Mac guys talk about MS BSOD even though they haven't happened for 10 years!!!! Android has proven to be a good phone OS as has ios and WP7. I think both Android and WP have better features and will be even better, But why do you have to start talking about things that happened on Android 4 versions ago. That is exactly like a Mac fan complaining about windows ME, or an Android Fanboy complaining about WM6.5. It doesn't apply anymore. As in my post above android has proven to have less force closes than ios, so it certainly isn't rubbish. I am eagerly awaiting what WP8 has in store

[dansamy]

Uh oh. The WP fanboys are starting to turn into Mac fanboys. You know how Mac guys talk about MS BSOD even though they haven't happened for 10 years!!!! Android has proven to be a good phone OS as has ios and WP7. I think both Android and WP have better features and will be even better, But why do you have to start talking about things that happened on Android 4 versions ago. That is exactly like a Mac fan complaining about windows ME, or an Android Fanboy complaining about WM6.5. It doesn't apply anymore. As in my post above android has proven to have less force closes than ios, so it certainly isn't rubbish. I am eagerly awaiting what WP8 has in store

Even Windows 7 will bsod.

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[IOWA]

I never had any of my Win7 machines BSOD. Not once.

[dansamy]

I never had any of my Win7 machines BSOD. Not once.

My husband has managed to blue screen his.

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[DP102288]

^^ I've frozen Android phones and Mac laptops before too...

Anyway, the recent announcements on WP8 seem like pieces of what I loved about WinMo are coming back. Yay!

And even though the board has no restrictions, I hope no one is intentionally visiting the Windows forum to cause trouble. Lets discuss, but please refrain from insulting each other.

[IOWA]

Windows 8/WP8 bothers me significantly. They are going to be used "secure boot" technology (encrypted BIOS, basically) which means it's mod-unfriendly. Thanks, but no thanks.

Chances are, you won't be able to install anything outside of their digital store either. I don't get why everyone lines up for these closed market practices. It's the worst thing that can ever happen to personal computing, yet people line up for it.

Kind of like 'Gun Control'

[KingBuzzo]

More like security...

No root kits and no crApplications...its a win-win

[DP102288]

I didn't hear that about Windows Phone 8. My tickling was due to bringing back sd card support and some other things I read that I can't remember now.

The thing that gets me is that I want a successor to Windows Mobile, which Windows Phone isn't at this point. Its pushing me to Android, but I don't want to go (yet anyway).

[migo]

Lol... from who, people who have either a.) Seriously outdated hardware b.) People who expect their phone to run 18 widgets 21 apps and stream media at the same time?

You have to be realistic here...

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Still a platform issue. I can't recommend Android because I don't know which phone someone will get. My brother got a Samsung Galaxy Ace on Tab and I had to get him to take it back and replace it with an Optimus One, simply because of the support it has on XDA. There are individual good Android phones, yes, but as a whole the platform has major problems. With Windows Phone you can be pretty confident one phone will be the same as the other, so it ends up being hardware specific issues that differentiate it.