get a better job.tethering is stealing. its not included. this is the reason that virgin mobile decided to cap our data.my regional sprint representative told me as soon as march comes around they're gonna start kicking people all of their plans that tether heavy. I personally cannot wait for the cap to start. I was never the type of person to take advantage of people or any company for that matter. when people don't pay for their services that they use that causes problems with the company and their money. sprint is not in a good financial situation right now and stuff like this is gonna hurt it more and I don't want sprint to go anywhere. I'm not saying that tethering is the reason that they are going broke but everything that people do does put them deeper in the hole
get a better job.tethering is stealing. its not included. this is the reason that virgin mobile decided to cap our data.my regional sprint representative told me as soon as march comes around they're gonna start kicking people all of their plans that tether heavy. I personally cannot wait for the cap to start. I was never the type of person to take advantage of people or any company for that matter. when people don't pay for their services that they use that causes problems with the company and their money. sprint is not in a good financial situation right now and stuff like this is gonna hurt it more and I don't want sprint to go anywhere. I'm not saying that tethering is the reason that they are going broke but everything that people do does put them deeper in the hole
Wow, you are quite the sanctimonious one! A better job? I'm very happy with my income and have worked hard to get my business profitable.
I think most people who tether/hot spot, use it occasionally and don't abuse it..and I'm certain VM will warn or shut them off. Using your logic, what about those customers that use NO data on VM? They are paying for it...shouldn't they get a credit every month for no data usage? FYI, the cap will have NO restriction for my small usage. Someone's data usage with Sprint has little or no impact on their financial condition..but their inconsistent/frequent data outages has a HUGE impact as to whether a customer stays or goes. What has been Sprint's financial Achilles heel is poor C/S (including outsourcing), frequent and sneaky changes to their T&C policy, the WiMax fiasco, disastrous Nextel purchase, billing that is the most error prone in the industry (my experiences), etc.
Note: learn to use comma's and capital letters as your post points to a poster child for failed grammar.
get a better job.tethering is stealing. its not included. this is the reason that virgin mobile decided to cap our data.my regional sprint representative told me as soon as march comes around they're gonna start kicking people all of their plans that tether heavy. I personally cannot wait for the cap to start. I was never the type of person to take advantage of people or any company for that matter. when people don't pay for their services that they use that causes problems with the company and their money. sprint is not in a good financial situation right now and stuff like this is gonna hurt it more and I don't want sprint to go anywhere. I'm not saying that tethering is the reason that they are going broke but everything that people do does put them deeper in the hole
You have already made your point in other threads about tethering. Everytime there is a tethering thread you seem to repeat yourself all over it. We get it.
get a better job.tethering is stealing. its not included. this is the reason that virgin mobile decided to cap our data.my regional sprint representative told me as soon as march comes around they're gonna start kicking people all of their plans that tether heavy. I personally cannot wait for the cap to start. I was never the type of person to take advantage of people or any company for that matter. when people don't pay for their services that they use that causes problems with the company and their money. sprint is not in a good financial situation right now and stuff like this is gonna hurt it more and I don't want sprint to go anywhere. I'm not saying that tethering is the reason that they are going broke but everything that people do does put them deeper in the hole
I have been running torrents almost 24/7 tethering with my Optimus V for almost 2 weeks and getting a solid 1.2 Mb/s down I am gittin mine while the gittin is good.
no im not corporate i was raised that way.just because you don't get arrested for tethering doesn't mean that it's right.tethering is stealing no matter which way you look at it. don't worry pretty soon I won't be talking about it because now that were capped and throttled there is no reason for me to care.if people wanna tether at 256 then go ahead.sure its internet,speeds i got ten years ago.
Talk about whether tethering is good, bad, or just plain ugly right here.
Hope you don't mind me moving some of the posts out of the recent tethering thread to this, if I could I'd have inserted them below yours, but it only works via the actual timeline, sorry.
Have you read the rules lately? They're usually in a sticky at the top of the page.
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Data is data, whether originating from a smartphone or a laptop tethered through that smartphone. Are you "stealing" cable service when you plug a router into your cable modem? No.
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Data is data, whether originating from a smartphone or a laptop tethered through that smartphone. Are you "stealing" cable service when you plug a router into your cable modem? No.
Your just making a self serving justification. It's against the TOS plain and simple.
I agree that its our data to use how we choose but its not the way it is.
get a better job.tethering is stealing. its not included. this is the reason that virgin mobile decided to cap our data.my regional sprint representative told me as soon as march comes around they're gonna start kicking people all of their plans that tether heavy.
No, it's not stealing. It is not allowed, just like using non Virgin Mobile devices on the Virgin Mobile service is not allowed, however you have PAID for access to data as Sprint/Virgin Mobile provides and you are accessing it from your Virgin Mobile device. Sprint/Virgin Mobile should be more concerned with providing a better subscriber experience and not trying to impose limits on an unlimited service that they themselves are selling as such.
Originally Posted by phonemagician
I personally cannot wait for the cap to start. I was never the type of person to take advantage of people or any company for that matter. when people don't pay for their services that they use that causes problems with the company and their money.
True, theft can cause problems for any company however, Virgin Mobile subscribers are paying for the service in this case.
Why do you portray paying consumers as thieves? Those that are abusing the data service should be removed from the service. However the vast majority of subscribers (90%+) are not. Tethering is a device capability that allows you to utilize your smartphone to access internet data. You are paying for the access, and purchased your Virgin Mobile smartphone that you are using to access the data. No theft there.
Originally Posted by phonemagician
sprint is not in a good financial situation right now and stuff like this is gonna hurt it more and I don't want sprint to go anywhere. I'm not saying that tethering is the reason that they are going broke but everything that people do does put them deeper in the hole
Sprint is trying to impose another limit on one of their claimed Unlimited Service features Virgin Mobile's Beyond Talk Unlimited Data. A feature they promote as a service advantage. A profit area that is underutilized by 90%+ of Virgin Mobile subscribers. Sprint's current financial situation is a result of many variables, the Nextel acquisition and subsequent iDen subscriber losses have resulted in years of poor financial results. A few (less than 3%) Virgin Mobile subscribers actually abusing data service, and some smartphone tethering are not the cause of that.
P R E P A I D is just another way to offer (and pay for) premium services and devices.
Hope you don't mind me moving some of the posts out of the recent tethering thread to this, if I could I'd have inserted them below yours, but it only works via the actual timeline, sorry.
nope, although it was sure confusing
Originally Posted by 350X
if VM doesn't want folsk to use hotspot, they should not sell phones with it built in.
I have no problem using a function of the phone I own that is built in, I have not done any hacking or rooting, 100% stock OV.
They don't any more, although VM, with their phone OSes, are pretty incompetent. They hid the hotspot feature though.
Here's something to consider. According to the Privacy Policy that ships on every Android phone, 3rd party apps don't violate the TOS. They can follow their own rules. As far as I know this includes GingerBreak, PDANet, etc.
How about "Especially now they're limiting it?" Nobody can go faster than 256kbps after 2.5GB of data, which is a strict imposition that will allow a trickle of data to everybody.
In this article there are three arguments against tethering. Now that VM is capping data anyway, they can be amended a little .
People using a laptop or other larger form factor computing device tend to use more data than people using data through a phone.
Everybody will get the same lame, limited data after 2.5GB. VM still claims their data is "unlimited" -- people here argue it strongly -- so there is no shame in using as much as possible.
People who tether go through their data at a quicker rate than people who don’t.
Well, now they can't, thanks to VM's cap.
It’s our network. If you don’t like this policy, go somewhere else.
It's only arguably against policy, thanks to their privacy policy
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Originally Posted by phonemagician
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