Telus LTE

[Dave32]

Hi,

Today MobileSyrup had a wonderful post regarding Telus allowing HSPA customers to use same plans on LTE.

Can anyone confirm this, looks like Telus employee's are being trained on LTE and they have LTE devices coming in Feb.

Also, Telus tech support did confirm the Samsung Galaxy IIs X is compatible with upcoming LTE network.

If this is the case, does anyone know the rollout plan for LTE in Ontario, Bell has KW, Guelph and GTA on LTE, how about the London area, its seems the 42mbps upgrade has not hit London, is it possible they will bypass HSPA+ 42mbps and go LTE?

Thoughts

Dave32

[Logical_guy]

Hi,

Today MobileSyrup had a wonderful post regarding Telus allowing HSPA customers to use same plans on LTE.

Can anyone confirm this, looks like Telus employee's are being trained on LTE and they have LTE devices coming in Feb.

Also, Telus tech support did confirm the Samsung Galaxy IIs X is compatible with upcoming LTE network.

If this is the case, does anyone know the rollout plan for LTE in Ontario, Bell has KW, Guelph and GTA on LTE, how about the London area, its seems the 42mbps upgrade has not hit London, is it possible they will bypass HSPA+ 42mbps and go LTE?

Thoughts

Dave32

1. Yes, the plans will be LTE capable.

2. No, the SIIX is not LTE capable.

3. Rollouts are a tightly kept secret and will more than likely occur in large urban centres first and expand from there. As LTE devices will fall back to DC-HSPA+, HSPA+, and then HSPA, expect the rollout to be DC first followed by LTE.

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[1/2asleep]

So if it's anything like the hspa rollout we can probably expect it in Manitoba in 2014 if we're lucky...

[a in yul]

apparently there will soon be a TELUS meet for emplyees i think in calgary; and this is expected to be where they will announce the LTE rollout dates; lets wait and see..

[maddog497]

Without getting too too technical. Does LTE have further reach?

I am not in an area that will see LTE for a while, (hopefully not too long as I live 2 km from the 401 corridor). As of right now I get terrible reception. First started on Mike and had full reception, now on HSPA I'm constantly around 101-103 in my basement.

[Que_Ball]

No, at best the same coverage as plain HSPA.

[dirtychoncho]

The reach would be better if they get the 700mhz LTE bands.

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[HP_John]

I've been wondering about when Telus would finally launch LTE, looks like it's coming soon! Good stuff

[Que_Ball]

No 700Mhz here, sorry. They have not even started auctioning it off.

The 1700Mhz auction ended May, 2008 and Telus is only now going to start using that. How long would it take after the 700Mhz auctions end before they would start using it? If history is a guide it will be a few years after the auctions end at best.

I bet you can sign a 3 year contract when LTE launches and by the time it's done there will still not be any 700Mhz deployed by Telus yet.

[dirtychoncho]

Hence the reason I said "if" they get 700mhz bands.

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[frankd91474]

Will the addition of the LTE network increase the speed of the HPSA+ network at all or are they completely separate?

[Logical_guy]

Will the addition of the LTE network increase the speed of the HPSA+ network at all or are they completely separate?

No effect.

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[Que_Ball]

Completely separate. Only way it will speed up the HSPA network is if enough high usage users switch over to make some kind of difference. I doubt it will though, the growth in subscribers in general will likely far outstrip the effect of users upgrading devices to the LTE network at least for the foreseeable future.

Until a time when all handsets ship with LTE by default and HSPA becomes more like a legacy network it's not going to make a dent.

Speed/capacity improvements on HSPA will be moderate and incremental which come from using more efficient faster HSPA+ radios (assuming customers don't end up just using more data as a result of having access to a faster radio), increasing the density of the HSPA radios in urban areas (More cell sites covering smaller and smaller sectors), and moving more spectrum away from the legacy CDMA network and dedicating that to HSPA.

[Ra_Harmakis]

No 700Mhz here, sorry. They have not even started auctioning it off.

The 1700Mhz auction ended May, 2008 and Telus is only now going to start using that. How long would it take after the 700Mhz auctions end before they would start using it? If history is a guide it will be a few years after the auctions end at best.

I bet you can sign a 3 year contract when LTE launches and by the time it's done there will still not be any 700Mhz deployed by Telus yet.

I think that you will be suprised at how fast the 700mhz get used by the Big 3. The LTE Roll Outs have been planned for a while, and the AWS spectrum was bought with LTE not HSPA in mind and that is why it took so long to use, and the knowledge that the 700Mhz band would come later.

Add in that AT&T and Verizon use 700Mhz, and represent MASSIVE value in Roaming agreements, I'm willing to bet that 700Mhz networks start going live almost as soon as carriers get their hands on it.

[QPhone]

I think that you will be suprised at how fast the 700mhz get used by the Big 3. The LTE Roll Outs have been planned for a while, and the AWS spectrum was bought with LTE not HSPA in mind and that is why it took so long to use, and the knowledge that the 700Mhz band would come later.

Add in that AT&T and Verizon use 700Mhz, and represent MASSIVE value in Roaming agreements, I'm willing to bet that 700Mhz networks start going live almost as soon as carriers get their hands on it.

I'm so hoping that Telus will re-unite again with Verizon with an LTE roaming agreement. Verizon is just kicking a$$ in expanding their LTE coverage vs AT&T. Most likely though it'll be AT&T because they have HSPA fallback. C'mon qualcomm...make it fallback to HSPA then EVDO or have the ability to choose so that we can roam with Verizon.