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    WIFI calling or something like it?

    WIND doesn't currently offer. What's the best you can do?

    The goal would be to have one phone number that people can call that rings whenever you are either in a wind zone, or somewhere on WIFI.

    Full marks only if outgoing calls always come from the same number so that people can call you back. (In other words, simple call forwarding solutions don't cut it.)

    My dad's condo is in a dead zone for ALL carriers (back of the building, at the bottom of a hill, no signal from anyone.) I believe if he went with Fido or maybe even Rogers they would set up some sort of wifi calling for him.

    Can anything be done on WIND? Or simulated cheaply enough with some VOIP provider? How well would that work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjwells View Post
    WIND doesn't currently offer. What's the best you can do?

    The goal would be to have one phone number that people can call that rings whenever you are either in a wind zone, or somewhere on WIFI.

    Full marks only if outgoing calls always come from the same number so that people can call you back. (In other words, simple call forwarding solutions don't cut it.)

    My dad's condo is in a dead zone for ALL carriers (back of the building, at the bottom of a hill, no signal from anyone.) I believe if he went with Fido or maybe even Rogers they would set up some sort of wifi calling for him.

    Can anything be done on WIND? Or simulated cheaply enough with some VOIP provider? How well would that work?
    Google Voice fits your criteria, but it will be American #. There are apps (talkatone on iOS, Groove IP on Android) so you can receive regular phone call on your cell phone.

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    Google Voice is not currently available in Canada? I thought you needed a US mobile number to sign up?

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    You could try line2/Toktumi.
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    1) Setup a VOIP incoming number (DID). voip.ms is a good choice for a voip provider.
    2) Change the caller id of the voip line to match your cell number. Anyone who dials back from their call display will dial into the cell number.
    3) Set conditional call forwarding from your cell number to the VOIP number. When cell reception is lost, the calls will be forwarded.
    4) Run VOIP app of your choice when there's no cell service. Any app with SIP support should suffice.
    When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.

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    I tried line2, Skype, and voip.ms and while all three have good quality audio on my wifi, they weren't even remotely usable on wind, to the point i think wind is suppressing them.

    Calls would not go through at all, or when they did the audio was only rarely recognizable as a distorted human voice and never intelligible. Often the unintelligible voice had a twenty seconds delay.

    On wifi it worked great but that leaves the call back problem. If you call from your wind number and then go home the call back won't work and you can't call from the voip number out on the network.

    Really obnoxious that wind disrupts voip.

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    I don't understand what you mean by call back, could you elaborate further? I imagine that the only difference would be the callerid which could be changed to whatever number you want with voip.ms.

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    I mean if you place a call from your wind number while out on the road, then go home to the wind dead zone and switch to voip.ms, if the person you called then hits dial from their recent call list, they will ring your wind line and you will miss that call.

    If voip.ms worked on the wind network you could just use it always, but it does not work, since you have to flip between wind and voip, you're not always art the same number.

    I think there is no solution until either wind offers wifi calling, or their days improves enough that voip is usable over their mobile data.

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    Wind does not disrupt voip. It's because upload speeds are sometimes too low, even for voip.

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    Step 3 in my first post covers that. Conditional call forwarding is normally set to dial your voicemail number so people can leave a message. Change those numbers to your voip number and it should automatically ring your voip line. Conditions available on my phone are 'No Reply', 'Busy' and 'Unavailable' which are all set to my voicemail number.

    No reply - No answer after specified number of seconds.
    Busy - On another call
    Unavailable - Unreachable due to no signal or phone powered off

    Your phone might show different names but they do the same thing. The Unavailable option is the one you'll want to change, or all of them if you choose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keyzink View Post
    Wind does not disrupt voip. It's because upload speeds are sometimes too low, even for voip.
    I don't know, speedtest tells me I have upload speeds that should be MORE than adequate for VOIP. If what I was experiencing was the odd dropout and not perfect call quality I might agree, but it is so bad that it's hard to imagine how it is anything other than intentional.

    Have you tried it?

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    I have tried voip calling on fring and it worked perfectly. I can only assume your issues are either because of slow uploads, high latency or a problem with the voip provider.

    What upload speeds do you get?

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    At OP, Helloo has the right answer. Read his posts again. Also grab a SIP client (csip, 3cx, etc) on your dad's Wind phone for incoming and outgoing calls over WIFI.

    Instead of a SIP on your smart phone I would grab an ATA box (Linksys) setup voip.ms and use a landline phone to receive and dial out.

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    Forgot to add is you don't need a DID number with VoIP.ms. They offer a free iNUM number that will do just fine for your Dad's setup.

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    Another +1 for Helloo's idea with voip.ms and the conditional forwarding.

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