Atrix is now $180 shipped at the cow place. Plenty of grade 6's. If you're gonna spend $500/yr on service might as well get a really nice phone. Cyanogenmod 9 (ICS) is available. 4" screen is nice, not too big.
Not as cheap as what you might get off CL and they're not mint but you can easily send it back for free within a month.
So with a T-Mobile 3g phone + T-Mobile Straight Talk sim, can you get 3g data? I thought somebody in the Not a Loophole thread said that T-Mobile phones were limited to EDGE.
I didn't see that or get that impression from that thread. It would appear that if you have the T-Mobile SIM, you'll get the T-Mobile network. It may be that the unlocked SIM will only work on AT&T's network(on the purchase page, it even says that the unlocked SIM requires the 850/1900 AT&T frequencies).
Basically unlike most MVNOs, ST has agreements with multiple networks instead of just one. So the T-Mobile SIM should work like you were any other T-Mo MVNO, AT&T and the unlocked SIM on AT&T's network, CDMA dumbphones on Verizon and others(biggest network), and the CDMA Smartphones(pretty much anything you'd buy from ST directly other than the E71) are on Sprint. It's a bit of an oversimplification since there are some smaller local roaming partners too, but that's the gist of it from what I read. There also may be some EDGE roaming for T-mo SIMs on AT&T and viceversa, but I haven't seen anything clear on that yet.
I thought that Straight Talk saying 850/1900 frequencies needed to be supported applied to all phones. Never thought that the wording was directed at users of the unlocked sim. In that big thread, it is almost Apple phone & At&t sim talk so I think there are only a couple of posts actually talking about the T-Mobile sim.
The Unlocked ST T-Mobile is being offered for the first tiem. We have no experience with it or the service it will provide. No one who has ordered one and received it has come foreward with any information that we could pass on to those interested.
Makes you wonder just how unpopular is T-Mobile??? With the locked SIM phones people go to great extremes Not to be stuck with T-Mobile service.
I have the ATT Avail and everything works but the data. I've tried everything I can find on this site and others. Has anyone else had any problems?
Other people have, but it seemed they didn't properly follow the instructions of using APN Backup and Restore to completely delete APN's, then enter the new ones fresh. If you did that, and enter then new APN's perfectly, and rebooted, and made sure cellular data is enabled, and are still having problems then the issue may be on ST's end and you will need to call them.
I didn't see that or get that impression from that thread. It would appear that if you have the T-Mobile SIM, you'll get the T-Mobile network.
No, with an ST SIM you get the ST network. That's a combination of AT&T and Tmo towers.
If you have a locked AT&T phone, you have to use an AT&T SIM. If you have a locked Tmo phone, you have to use a Tmo SIM. If you have an unlocked phone you can use either one.
If you use an AT&T SIM on a Tmo tower, or a Tmo phone on an AT&T tower, you're limited to Edge speed. Regardless of which SIM you have or who your provider is. (You'd have the same problem with an unlocked phone if you had a "real" AT&T or Tmo SIM.)
(There's no such thing as an "unlocked SIM" - SIMs are for a particular carrier. Phones can be locked to a specific carrier or be unlocked. It's a SIM lock - it's locked to a particular carrier's SIM.)
It may be that the unlocked SIM
Where do you see an "unlocked SIM"? (Link?) There's a choice for a SIM for an unlocked phone.
will only work on AT&T's network(on the purchase page, it even says that the unlocked SIM requires the 850/1900 AT&T frequencies).
Probably because they send you an AT&T SIM for an unlocked phone (maybe because they pay less for them), but if you're going to be using Tmo towers, you won't get any decent data speed that way. (An 850/1900 phone can't get Tmo's 700/2100 data signals.) And if where you live there's no AT&T signal, and you have an AT&T phone, you're a fish on a bicycle.
Atrix EXCELLENT CONDITION $200 Buy it now, 4 available as well http://goo.gl/JRmE1 , this is a great phone for $200, and even better if you root and unlock the bootloader then install a custom rom. Overclock it alittle be almost on par with a a galaxy s ii performance wise id say, with its 1gb ram. My moms getting a atrix and i have a galaxy s ii, im gonna make a comparison video of them both on custom roms when she gets it
Ahh, there were never that price, i got mind when there were only in europe for $550 used, highest i remember them was $650-700, now they can be found for $350-400 used, $420-$450 new on ebay. Galaxy note isnt even $800