Rogers Q4 2011 results - mobilesyrup, Feb 21
- postpaid subscriber base 7,574,000 (not a number we want to compare to Mobi's, if we could)
- net postpaid subscriber increase of 42,000 (Mobi's net 63,000 figure is 50% higher!)
- ARPU fell 4% ($2.49) to $58.82
For more detail:
Globe and Mail, Feb 22
“In summary this was a truly poor quarter at Rogers Wireless,” wrote Dvai Ghose, an analyst with Canaccord Genuity, in a note to clients...
Its postpaid wireless net subscriber additions totaled 42,000 for the quarter, but that was down 7 per cent compared to the same period in 2010...
CBC, Feb 22
edited to focus on postpaid subscriber numbers, prepaid would be accounted for by the sub-brands, and the net 42,000 postpaid subscribers is what's being reported in the mainstream media
Last edited by pjw918; 02-22-2012 at 03:38 PM.
$600 Bill for local calls - CTV Consumer Alert, Mar 1
(video, best viewed on PC)
An 18-year-old Durham Region teen got a shock after he received a $600 cell phone bill for local calls
On an unlimited plan, with Wind.
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T-Mobile exec: Key to fixing industry is removing device subsidies - GeekWire, March 8
T-Mobile Chief Marketing Officer Cole Brodman said that the way carriers subsidize devices is hurting the industry.
“It actually distorts what devices actually cost and it causes OEMs, carriers — everybody to compete on different playing fields,” said Brodman, speaking at the GeekWire Summit in Seattle...
"It becomes difficult because consumers vote with their pocketbooks, and they will almost always pick a low device price oftentimes over a low rate plan price or a bundled rate plan price..."
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Ha! "like the money mart of banks" Perfect.
I think Brodman is right about subsidised phones hurting the industry, but they're not going to go away any time soon.
I used to hope that the advent of the new carriers would start a mass consumer movement away from subsidized phones and three-year contracts, but lately I'm giving up on ever seeing this happen. Most consumers are incapable of doing the simple arithmetic of taking Robelus-level monthly payments and comparing them to Mobi/Wind-level payments plus the up-front cost of a phone, and reaching the obvious conclusion.
As I said before, people in North America love the word "free". If you advertise "free phone*" *with a license to rob you every night, people will read the "free phone" part and not the rest. It reminds me of subprime lending. Every joe who cant afford a phone signs a contract and gets even poorer. The carriers wont bl;eed money, they are smart enough to overcharge people and make a profit.
When people love to be fleeced, you cant force them to not get fleeced.
I say - give the customer what they want.
A $500 phone is $14/mo. over 3 years plus interest.
BTS plus free $500 phone would be $39/mo. for a 3 year contract. Easily putting any other provider to shame. Beat them at their own game.
If Mobi would get a bank to finance the phone if the user qualifies they would have a customer for 3 years.
If they default - the bank will go after the customer for the remainder of the cost of the phone and interest.
Free phone $39/mo (plus interest on the loan).
Bring your own phone $25/mo no contract.
Take your pick.
When your customers want a contract and "free" phone - telling them there is no contract is not a selling point.
Shaw just started doing the same thing. They advertise no contract. But if you want a free PVR - you pay monthly for 3 years and then get to keep it. If you cancel the service - you still are on the hook for the PVR which only works on Shaw's service.
With Telus - you get a free PVr - but only on a contract. You never own it and if it breaks - they give you a new one. Suddenly a contract is the way to go.
Line 1: MMo45 for $30/M
Line 2: Wish40 for $35/M
Line 3: Wish40 for $35/M
Line 4: Wish40 for $35/M
WIND Mobile had 403,000 subscribers at the end of 2011 - mobilesyrup, March 13
Orascom Q4 Earnings Report - pdf
“Although WIND had positive prepaid net additions in Q4 2011, WIND elected not to follow unreasonably aggressive pricing waves adopted by low end market entrants proven to have no financial feasibility and in fact unsustainable in the mid-term for the high dormancy and churn rates coupled by significantly lower ARPU and negative lifetime value of such customers. WIND’s commitment to the pre-paid market in Canada continued, but reflected a conscious and disciplined mandate not to match competition purely on lower price”
"In Canada, WIND Mobile experienced a 13% decline in ARPU YoY, while showing stability compared to the previous quarter."
(and Mobi's ARPU and net adds for Q4..?)
Last edited by pjw918; 03-13-2012 at 07:24 PM. Reason: 403,000, not 405,000