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    Quote Originally Posted by primetechv2 View Post
    So in one year there will be Verizon and AT&T. I feel so secure now.
    Seriously, that guy's a VZW phanboi, he has a tendency of predicting doomsday for every non-VZW wireless company. I wonder if he then buys large quantities of Sprint shares after causing the stock to lose value and the sells his shares a few months later once the Stock climbs a few points. Nothing wrong with his methods, if you buy and sell stock you can rely on him to help you buy at great prices and then unload your shares once you see your shares appreciate to a modest point.

    At this moment in time I would be more concerned with a potential T-Mobile bankruptcy, their postpaid subscribers are almost non-existant and they are not showing any improvement on that valuable segment.

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    I imagine the price increase might have had to do with inflation too...no? Not really? Well whatever the case, it's pretty clear that was VM's intent... increase overall revenue by feigning a "refresh."

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    Quote Originally Posted by vmobi View Post
    At this moment in time I would be more concerned with a potential T-Mobile bankruptcy, their postpaid subscribers are almost non-existant and they are not showing any improvement on that valuable segment.

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    I'd take a closer look at TMO's balance sheets. Their debt to equity levels are nowhere close to Sprint's. They're still making money and they even got a nice $3 billion boost to invest in LTE networks.

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    Sprint may be a lot of things, but bankrupt isn't one of them. Very misleading post title.

    Of course it's possible down the road, Sprint still hasn't managed to turn this sinking ship around yet and IMO we need to start at the top - get rid of Dan Hesse. He's lost millions of customers as it is and as he's already got a golden parachute out, he's set for life. Bring in a young new face with fresh ideas.

    VM is $35 don't know why people are still saying its $25. For $10 more than VM's cheapest plan you can get on board with Straight Talk on an iphone or any other GSM device and get unlimited minutes, text, and data. Virgin mobile is no longer the 'value' carrier they once were.



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    It might be a far stretch, but even if Sprint did start to go bankrupt I imagine the government might step in. Seeing as the DOJ stopped the AT&T-mobile merger, they might pour a couple billion into a business that's all-American, unlike a shifty European company like TMo.

    This is a joke. I'm just mad 'cuz T-Mobile isn't available in my area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by corrupt81 View Post
    VM is $35 don't know why people are still saying its $25. For $10 more than VM's cheapest plan you can get on board with Straight Talk on an iphone or any other GSM device and get unlimited minutes, text, and data. Virgin mobile is no longer the 'value' carrier they once were.

    I guess some people don't know how to compare competing products from competing companies? It's common sense that you don't compare TMO's $30 plan against a talk/txt/data plan from VM that doesn't show up in ads or among in-store activation options.

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    Nah... No BK. Probably just pay a little more attention if your a pay as you goer. Think their infrastructure and customers have a lot of value even if they do a bk reorg. If I had to bet bought out in a year or 2. Lack of real 4g for fruit fone five (I like the way it sounds) has a lot of analysts worried about future. Seems like analyst fear mongering pump and dump. This industry is so competitive, fluid and dynamic with some interesting hiccups. They will cut deals for spectrum, figure out a way to finance proprietary infrastructure or get bought out. IMHO.

    Interesting article... I think that for the average consumer; Sprint's network has more than enough juice. Fruit fone five's release will be fascinating to watch...
    if interested... great article
    http://blogs.marketwatch.com/thetell...ubsidies-down/

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    Quote Originally Posted by martin_j001 View Post
    Thread title edited.

    Wise move. Original title was a bit sensationalist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cookedgoose View Post
    Yes. And what helps Sprint is most people don't know about Straight Talk or the $30 TMO plan.
    Don't forget, it was Boost who shook up the industry by offering a nationwide $50/mo unlimited everything plan. If you read up on America Movil, they're an absolutely ruthless company in the markets they have a monopoly over. I don't really see them continuing to be a knight in shining armor if Sprint were to tank.

    And you can forget about T-Mobile showing any generosity, either. Most of us do remember how awful their prepaid offerings used to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gotanmp3 View Post
    Don't forget, it was Boost who shook up the industry by offering a nationwide $50/mo unlimited everything plan. If you read up on America Movil, they're an absolutely ruthless company in the markets they have a monopoly over. I don't really see them continuing to be a knight in shining armor if Sprint were to tank.
    I've run into StraightTalk once, with a customer who grabbed postpaid Sprint on a whim and asked me to fix an ST phone. I told him he should go get support where he got it, which is unfortunately a sandwich of two big, nasty monopolies... America Movil and Wal-Mart.

    Comparing Virgin to Straight Talk is like comparing it to... Itself, though isn't it? Seeing as they were imposing some goofy data caps too...unless I'm thinking about Net10's Sprint-based devices...

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    Quote Originally Posted by primetechv2 View Post
    I've run into StraightTalk once, with a customer who grabbed postpaid Sprint on a whim and asked me to fix an ST phone. I told him he should go get support where he got it, which is unfortunately a sandwich of two big, nasty monopolies... America Movil and Wal-Mart.

    Comparing Virgin to Straight Talk is like comparing it to... Itself, though isn't it? Seeing as they were imposing some goofy data caps too...unless I'm thinking about Net10's Sprint-based devices...
    Know were getting a little off topic, but thought this was worth mentioning re: Walmart and the Pre and Post services they offer.
    Inquired about buying demo phones from the Phone Kiosk manager (they don't do it) and asked how their straight talk products were doing... They were doing well, but Walmart intentionally does not service BYOD customers in need of help; they will be told to leave and call customer service. Accordingly sims for n10 and st will likely never be retailed in the big box. Perhaps an niche for indie shop owners or if you have the mind just log in here.

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    In that case Virgin really does have one up on the competition: they aren't sold through America Mobil and friends Although a downside is they (well, Sprint) have allowed America Movil to sell their service...

    And that's how they overextended themselves in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by primetechv2 View Post
    In that case Virgin really does have one up on the competition: they aren't sold through America Mobil and friends Although a downside is they (well, Sprint) have allowed America Movil to sell their service...

    And that's how they overextended themselves in the first place.
    Isn't there an upside of allowing another company to wholesale their service? Don't they make money from these agreements?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cookedgoose View Post
    Isn't there an upside of allowing another company to wholesale their service? Don't they make money from these agreements?
    Oh, I'm sure there's money in it. I just don't think it was wise in the long run... Things can only get so large before they crumble apart at the edges. This applies for empires like Rome, giants like Andre... Why not Sprint too.

    Spread all those users out over limited towers and suddenly congestion and horrible service.

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