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Phone Collector
blah333:
1) Relax. That will help this situation a lot
2) I don't know anything about absinthe. Is is an UNTETHERED jailbreak? If so, then you don't need to worry about a "just boot" option. The Just Boot is there for TETHERED jailbreaks like the one I did with red snow.
If you have used redsnow and have a tethered jailbreak, then when you power off your phone and start it up again (NOT CONNECTED to the computer, and NOT using redsnow) then yes, you should lose the jailbreak & not be able to access cydia or tetherme.
Sometimes even with everything working, you can lose a jailbreak & not have access to cydia/tetherme/mms. It's not 100% failsafe.
Mobile Pro
Yes absinthe is a untethered jailbreak but I read that if you have a new bootrom number that you had to do a tethered jailbreak......so i restored the phone(i am guessing that erased all programs and data) and did the redsnow jailbreak......i just powered off my phone again for a min, turned it back on not hooked up to comp or red snow.....I can not access cydia and the tetherme app is gone in settings BUT when i send a text with a pic it works! Arent i supposed to lose the ability to do that?
Phone Collector
Sorry, I don't know anything about bootrom numbers. That was some of the nonsense I mentioned in the original post.Originally Posted by blah333
If you rebooted and it still works...maybe just be happy you didn't lose your jailbreak?
Has a car phone
jimxx,
are you saying that by getting the unlock from AT&T you have phone and data service just by installing your SIM or that you were then able to make changes to your phones' APN settings? I have a 3Gs from someone with AT&T who upgraded to a 4Gs. I am a noob but I do not see that my 3Gs has to be jail broke.
Radiation is good
Yes, get your 3GS unlocked by At&t and you can use ANY GSM SIM on it and all features will work. However, each GSM carrier has their own MMS (pic mail) codes. I run a original T-Mo SIM (not a ST T-Mo SIM) on my 3GS since At&t coverage at my home is really bad (att coverage map indicates best coverage..not). With the T-Mo SIM, I get Edge speed (ok with it and use wifi at home) and still able to watch a youtube, maps/navigation work fine, etc. If yoou have good coverage with Att, go with them as you will get 3G speed. Good luck
Has a car phone
Thank you for the reply jimxx.
My brother gave me his old 3GS that he had since upgrading to 4GS. To speak with person at his service provider (AT&T) I need his last 4 of his SS#. When I entered that when prompted and a CSR picked up almost immediately. Tool less than 10 minutes to determine the phone was eligible to be unlocked. Eligible meaning the phone was paid for and no past due balance on account. Easy-peasy. After that it is just a matter of connecting it to iTunes and doing a backup and restore.
Has a car phone
I am trying to change my apn settings on my iphone 3gs and everything I see says to click on the "Cellular Data Network" tab. But I dont have this. What do I have to do to access this??? I was also told to unlock the phone all I have to do is go to itunes and restore and update the phone. Is this true?
Has a car phone
That was my understanding too, John. AT&T told me that I would be good to go after doing that. I did it after making my previous post.
But like you, there was still no option to change the APN. I did it at a city library and tried to get wi-fi connection with the iPhone and couldn't do that either. I went to a McDonald's and wi-fi worked there. I then followed instructions for getting Data from here http://wiki.howardforums.com/index.p...lk_iPhone#Data. I did as it said and went to http://unlockit.co.nz, very simple to follow the instructions given.
Finally some joy. Had internet and faster than what I was used to, too.
But later I tried to download Opera Browser. Went to app store and when I tried to log in my brother's email addy came up in log-in prompt. I thought the unlocking and restoring would do away with all that. AT&T said they were going to call my on Tuesday to make sure everything went OK. I hope they can enlighten me some more.
Has a car phone
I set up an account with itunes and was able to take old email out of phone and put mine in but now I am unable to send or receive mms (picture text) from anyone without an iphone. Everything I have done has been with an unlocked iphone 3gs that I unlocked using itunes and have not jailbroke it.
Phone Expert
Unfortunately, you have discovered the same thing I did recently, and that is getting an official unlock through ATT does not cause Cellular Data Network to appear under Settings>General>Network. You have 3 options that I'm aware off:
1. Jailbreak the phone and install TetherMe. I will be happy to provide some links to help you with this if you choose to go this route. This is what I did recently, and it's really no big deal. I can even suggest a way to get the TetherMe app for free.
2. Try a "hot" T-Mobile SIM swap. The procedure quickly is get your hands on a T-Mobile SIM (I've read that it doesn't matter whether it's an active or inactive one), remove your ST SIM, insert the T-Mobile SIM, give the phone time to acclimate to the new SIM (may take several minutes and you need to be in an area with T-Mobile coverage), go to Settings>General>Network and Cellular Data Network should be available, enter the correct settings for MMS, remove the T-Mobile SIM, reinstall your ST SIM, and you should have working MMS. I was going to either order a T-Mobile SIM off eBay or go in a T-Mobile store to test this out, but I decided to jailbreak instead. You will see most reporting that this works for the 4/4S, but not the 3GS. I have seen reports that it will work for an unlocked 3GS like yours and mine, but I can't say for sure.
3. "Modify the preferences.plist and com.apple.mms_override.plist files in your iPhone backup and restore to the phone using iBackupBot". Here is a link to a recent thread that explains this http://www.howardforums.com/showthre...k-no-jailbreak.
Frankly, I would jailbreak the phone or try the sim swap. I wanted to jailbreak because I wanted to understand how it worked, and I wanted to tweak my phone in other ways. I'm glad I did it, and will probably continue to jailbreak with future iPhones.
Let me know if I can help further.
P.S. Here is a link to something I recently posted on another thread http://www.howardforums.com/showthre...5#post14847215. It was in response to a question about jailbreaking to tether, but it explains how I would go about jailbreaking the phone.
Has a car phone
I have everything working except the mms text or picture message. I can send and receive pictures if it is an imessage.
Radiation is good
If your iphone is unlocked via Att, then you should have the APN screen to enter the data. If using T-Mobile SIM (not a ST T-Mo SIM, but may work), use these settings:
1. MMS APN - epc.tmobile.com
2. MMS MMSC - http://mms.msg.eng.t-mobile.com/mms/wapenc
3. MMS Proxy - 216.155.165.50:8080
4. MMS Max Message Size - 1048576
5. MMS UA Prof URL - http://www.apple.com/mms/uaprof.rdf
6. Click Network to save, no reboot needed.
Good luck and let us know if successful!
Has a car phone
Im using st and apple sent me iPhone Configuration Utility 3.5 for Windows to change the apn settings but it only offered the following: name = straight talk, apn = att.mvno, password = , and proxy/port = proxy.mvno.tracfone.com/80. I left the password blank. there was no mmsc, mms proxy, or mms port. Up to this point apple has sent me links and emailed instructions to edit the phones. They said that everything should work now. I guess my next option is to jailbreak them. If I do this can I still update the phones or will I loose all the settings I have reconfigured? Apple also said that if I jailbreak them I could damage the phones.
Phone Expert
I replied to earlier posts of yours several days ago, and pointed out all available options for getting MMS working on the iPhone. I too was initially mislead by thinking that the iPhone Configuration Utility (ICU) would solve my MMS problems. All the ICU can do is change the data APN profile, not the MMS APN profile. That is why, as you correctly point out, there is no place in the ICU to enter things like mmsc, mms proxy, etc.
I refer you back to my prior post. If you are really opposed to jailbreaking, do you have a friend that has a T-Mobile phone, or is there a TMO store nearby? Why don't you try the sim swap idea I mentioned. If you decide not to go this route, just jailbreak your phone as I explained. In the long run, I believe you will be glad you did. As I said, the biggest risk with jailbreaking is that something goes wrong and you have to do a full restore of the phone in iTunes. This can be a big pain in the a-- for someone like me who has installed numerous cydia apps/tweaks. But if all you're going to do is jailbreak in order to install TetherMe, then even if something goes wrong and you loose your jailbreak, then re-jailbreaking is really no big deal. You can/should still do periodic backups and syncs of your phone in iTunes. That way, if you have to do a full restore, you've lost nothing other than the time it takes to re-jailbreak, reinstall TetherMe, and reinput the MMS settings.
Last edited by thehofoguy; 07-01-2012 at 12:22 PM.
Phone Expert
@johnboy1845, I forgot to specially address your question about if you jailbreak will you loose the settings you've already input. The short answer is no. Once you have the Cellular Data Network option available under Settings>General>Network, then you will be able to see the settings you've already been able to get onto the phone by using unlockit.co.nz, ICU, or whatever. You may find that it's best to remove the profile, if any, you installed by using the ICU as, if not done correctly, may cause you to get iTunes error messages telling you that you must do an encrypted backup, which if I remember correctly, will not work with a jailbreak scenario.
Also, please keep in mind that jailbreaking has been ruled legal. If your phones are out of warrantly, then there are no consequences, as far as Apple goes, to your choice to open the "closed garden" of iOS so that you can install some additional functionality on your phone. You are only going to permanently damage your phone, and make it unusable, if you start monkeying around with it once you've jailbroken it and "opened" the Apple garden. If you use it in the same responsible fashion as you would if it wasn't jailbroken, then your only realistic concern is that you could lose the jailbreak, and not have a functioning phone until you can connect to iTunes and do a full restore/resync, and put the stock firmware and all your apps and settings back on the phone. You could then choose to jailbreak again if you wanted. None of this will have "damaged" the phone in any way.
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