AT&T to put WP7 on the map the way Verizon put Android? Plans Biggest Launch Ever...

[spdickey]

Why do we need a third player? Android comes in countless different implementations on different hardware, from the Optimus to the DROID RAZR MAXX and Galaxy Nexus.

Yes we do.

Its not the device makers, its Apple vs. Google. We need a strong third player in the market, and it won't be RIM to keep the duopoly in check. Who better than the deep pockets of Microsoft and Nokia to play the disrupter in a three way race.

[Crav4Speed]

Why do we need a third player? Android comes in countless different implementations on different hardware, from the Optimus to the DROID RAZR MAXX and Galaxy Nexus.

Of course we are all allowed to believe what we want to believe because we all like to think we live in a free thinking society, but I just don't understand this mentality. This country was founded on the principles of free market enterprise and competition. Just because you think something is right for you doesn't mean it's right for everyone else. I like the fact that there is a threat from a third ecosystem (MS & Nokia). I also hope RIM makes a comeback with their ecosystem because with competition, mobile devices and OS's get better and in the end, the consumer wins.

Also, maybe some people don't want a phone that has Android or iOS! I, personally, don't want an Android phone from a company (i.e. Google) that I will never support with a heavy, sloppily coded and sluggish skin from some phone manufacturer. Android is not the be-all and end-all of mobile operating systems. Why is that so completely difficult for hardcore Android users to comprehend? All of my PC's at home and work are Windows, my work server runs SBS 2011 and I have an xbox at home so it made sense for me to adopt Windows Phone. I like WP's simplistic and modern UI, I like not having to reboot once a day, I like not having to root my device to try 100 different roms for stability and, most importantly, I like not caring about what you like. Hardcore iOS users are in their own little world and are oblivious to anything else other than Apple so they couldn't care either. It's just hardcore Android users that love their OS and then try to force you to like it and then question you and call you a retard if you don't. So, the moral of the story is: if you enjoy whatever device makes you sleep at night, good for you and I truly hope you live a happy, fun-filled life, just don't think to yourself that we all need or want what you need or want.

[GSMinCT]

Of course we are all allowed to believe what we want to believe because we all like to think we live in a free thinking society, but I just don't understand this mentality. This country was founded on the principles of free market enterprise and competition. Just because you think something is right for you doesn't mean it's right for everyone else. I like the fact that there is a threat from a third ecosystem (MS & Nokia). I also hope RIM makes a comeback with their ecosystem because with competition, mobile devices and OS's get better and in the end, the consumer wins.

Also, maybe some people don't want a phone that has Android or iOS! I, personally, don't want an Android phone from a company (i.e. Google) that I will never support with a heavy, sloppily coded and sluggish skin from some phone manufacturer. Android is not the be-all and end-all of mobile operating systems. Why is that so completely difficult for hardcore Android users to comprehend? All of my PC's at home and work are Windows, my work server runs SBS 2011 and I have an xbox at home so it made sense for me to adopt Windows Phone. I like WP's simplistic and modern UI, I like not having to reboot once a day, I like not having to root my device to try 100 different roms for stability and, most importantly, I like not caring about what you like. Hardcore iOS users are in their own little world and are oblivious to anything else other than Apple so they couldn't care either. It's just hardcore Android users that love their OS and then try to force you to like it and then question you and call you a retard if you don't. So, the moral of the story is: if you enjoy whatever device makes you sleep at night, good for you and I truly hope you live a happy, fun-filled life, just don't think to yourself that we all need or want what you need or want.

I'm not saying that we should arbitrarily stop selling WP7 just because it's pointless and it sucks, there are a lot of phones that suck a lot more than the Nokia Lumia 900, or are a lot more pointless. I'm just saying there's no reason that we as a community should care about a non-contender in the market. Android and iOS are where it's at.

If you want something super reliable, and not buggy like skinned Android, then get a Galaxy Nexus or an iPhone.

[Danny4G]

Looks like Verizon is gunning for Windows Phone 8 this holiday season and like the title of my thread they feel they could do the same.....

http://www.bgr.com/2012/04/20/verizo...-the-holidays/

[ilvla2]

Looks like Verizon is gunning for Windows Phone 8 this holiday season and like the title of my thread they feel they could do the same.....

http://www.bgr.com/2012/04/20/verizo...-the-holidays/

Windows 8 will also be coming to tablets, I think it will give iOS and Android a good run for their money there.

[CA]

Windows 8 will also be coming to tablets, I think it will give iOS and Android a good run for their money there.

Agreed, when Microsoft does their mind meld between desktop (most used OS in the world, Google and Apple need to be shaking in their boots over this), tablets, and phones, I see WP getting real popular.

Btw, the other day I read an article that mentioned $300.00 Windows Tablets coming out this year, besides the $1,000.00 ones!

[aneftp]

Agreed, when Microsoft does their mind meld between desktop (most used OS in the world, Google and Apple need to be shaking in their boots over this), tablets, and phones, I see WP getting real popular.

Btw, the other day I read an article that mentioned $300.00 Windows Tablets coming out this year, besides the $1,000.00 ones!

It's really hard to hit the $299 price point unless you take major shortcuts on a tablet. We are talking using cheaper 7 inch LCD panels. Using half the hard drive space half the ram etc.

[CA]

It's really hard to hit the $299 price point unless you take major shortcuts on a tablet. We are talking using cheaper 7 inch LCD panels. Using half the hard drive space half the ram etc.

Amazon and Google (Nexus when it comes out) have done it quite nicely. The Amazon tablet is selling like hotcakes, as will the Google Nexus. Jeff Bezos changed thinking a bit with the Fire. Looks like it has good specs too.

http://www.amazon.com/Kindle-Fire-Am...5025451&sr=8-4

Fantastic specs at that, check the link out. It sounds like you are an iDummy! J/K

[aneftp]

Amazon and Google (Nexus when it comes out) have done it quite nicely. The Amazon tablet is selling like hotcakes, as will the Google Nexus. Jeff Bezos changed thinking a bit with the Fire. Looks like it has good specs too.

http://www.amazon.com/Kindle-Fire-Am...5025451&sr=8-4

Fantastic specs at that, check the link out. It sounds like you are an iDummy! J/K

Nah. Man iDummy. I have owned all the gadgets. Blackberries galore, First iPhone. First android G1. First Playbook. First xoom. Now ventured in windows phone world with Lumia 900.

Amazon isn't even making a profit with the Kindle. They are relying on their own ecosystem. Let's see how long it takes them to put ICS on the skinned 2.3 system. I've used both the playbook and kindle fire. The newer playbook Os is superior to the Kindle. Kindle is still a little laggy.

Anyways. While the cost to build these tablets will decrease over time. It's still roughly $200-220 to build a 7 inch tablet. Roughly $300 to build a wifi 10 inch tablet. Add any cellular radios that increases the cost by another $20-30.

The point is Google and their tablet partners are having a hard time determine a "nexus tablet entry price point".

If Asus put a quad core 7 inch tablet nexus tablet and a google wants it to sell for $199. It's going to be incredibly risky move at expense of profit margin. Remember tablet sales are non subsidized for the most part.

It's much more difficult to break the stranglehold of the market leader unless their is a compelling product. Than the question is how much they undercut to sell that compelling product.

[CA]

It's much more difficult to break the stranglehold of the market leader unless their is a compelling product. Than the question is how much they undercut to sell that compelling product.

Apple and Google have done it quite nicely, Apple charging much more. I just can't help but think that the ubiquitous Microsoft OS will do well with the phone market. They would have a synergy unheard of in history!

RIM ushered in pmail and history was changed, you should of been around hofo when posters were downplaying the need/addictive for it and instead talking about seem edits on a Moto. At that time I was posting my thoughts about a phone that does more than calls...now we call them apps. That's when Steve Jobs evidently had the same thought and eventually called it the iPhone, giving Apple a second life.

So lets see, knowing that every market has three large players like UPS that begat FedEX then to DHL, that emulated the post office, the same will be true with phones, mark my words. RIM is near death and Apple might just get old, you can't sprint forever!