i like to see roaming mins included but the actual value of these are low (esp if minutes don't carry over)...will stick with my bts plan...
would pay extra for a roaming bundle that worked on text/voice/data that carried over...
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You are right it is now 20 cents to roam with Mobilicity. That not with standing, the other arguments still remain about the $25 plan though ..
About Chatr being a Rogers brand so automatically getting some distance from us .. thats true to some part .. but honestly, the average person is not a HoFo'er lol ..
+1 to Rogers does not offer 500 minutes with evenings and weekends including text for $25 in market.
The phone protection plan covers:Whats the need to have a $55? Probably to remind peoples of the presence of a $55 plan or just to stack on phone protection that not many people are fond of hearing about. Sounds just too much like a cash grab.
1. Loss or theft of phone
2. Water damage
3. Usual wear and tear
Point #1 is very important for us who travel in the public transit with expensive phones. It also covers for it if your phone is lost or stolen while you are on vacation!
People who have old phones can use a chatr SIM. People who will buy a cheap phone - this doesnt apply to them.1) People with Mobilicity would be on a AWS network and need AWS compatible hardware. The start-up cost is higher this way for customers and this might be a detterrant for people.
Mobi is 20 cents/min. Chatr is 25 cent / min.2) Zones/Reception/Roaming. With Mobilicity you will pay 22 cents a minute outside of the set coverage area to get roaming in areas which Chatr probably already covers. With Chatr, you will get an expanded network in each direction comparitvely (north/south/east/west). Outside of the Chatr zone, you might have to pay 25 cents to use the phone .. yes it is 3 cents higher than Mobi
Wrong. Mobilicity has international roaming agreements. Its cheaper than Chatr. Chatr international: $4/min. Mobi : $3/min. The US roaming at 20 cent/min is a bonus on mobi!Chatr also allows you to use your phone internationally. Mobilcity does not have such agreements.
Hahahahha This is rogers logic. Charging 25 cent for each VM retrieval not "retrieve and save", its "cash grab".3) Voicemail. The Chatr plan actually does have voicemail included in it .... it just charges you to retrieve them. Retrieve them as a pay-as-you-go cost and save.
And now something you missed:
1. Mobi + Unlimited data: $35. ($25+$10 unlimited data addon)
Chatr: Data (100 MB) $45
Chatr phones vs mobi phones: Huge difference. (dont say "buy and unlock", you need to think of warranty as well!)
2. Chatr has invisible zones. i.e. In the end of a zone, you will not know if you are in-zone or roaming. Rogers helpline will always blame you.
3. International calling: I suppose chatr charges you 2 cent/min to asia or has unlimited international addons? Have you seen chatr international rates? They are a scam!
If you just take the $45 plan and the $7 smartphone protection, that right there comes out to $52. Taking the $55 plan over the $45+$7 option just gives you an extra 30 roaming minutes for $3. This means that going the $45+$7 route, at least for people in Ontario, that you would be paying $5.31+tax (30x$0.20/1.13 because the pay per use rate already includes tax) for that additional 30 roaming minutes, bringing your total to $57.31+tax per month. This means that the most that the $55 plan can save an Ontario customer is $2.31. But if you don't use at least 17 of those roaming minutes from 30 to 60 (at least 47 in total), you're paying more than if you just took the lower priced plan. For that $55 plan to make any sense, Mobilciity needs to include something else significant or lower the price.
Even based on Mobilicity's own marketing material, they even believe that the $45 package is a better plan by labeling it as "best value". In my opinion, the $55 plan as it is just won't sell.
+1 Dave114, computergeek541
xtachx, the lower part of your post is not relevant to the comparison I did earlier because .. like i stated earlier .. we're looking at a scenario where a customer wants to pay as less as possible and wants to pay $25. You missed the point .. if someone only wants to pay $25, Chatr would still be better for now. For paying anything more than $25 .. I'm arguing right along side you about Mobi being the the best bang for the buck.
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In the AWS/cellular context, TAFL is Industry Canada's list of all base stations in operation, as submitted by the spectrum licensee the month prior.
The underlying database is Industry Canada's Assignment and Licensing System (ALS)
A subset of the ALS is published monthly as the Technical and Administrative Frequency Lists (TAFL)
Real-time access to the AWS/cellular data of ALS is provided by Spectrum Direct's (SD) Geographical Area Search
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My company has a deal with Bell Mobility. $22/month for 250 anytime minutes, 6pm evenings and weekends, unlimited incoming calls (within local calling area), unlimited text messaging to Canada/US, caller ID, voicemail, call forwarding, conference calling, call waiting. Extra airtime is 10c/min, Canadian long distance is 8c/min (a $15 Unlimited Canadian long distance add-on is available) and US long distance is 15c/min. They also have an unlimited Bell Mobility to Bell Mobility calling add-on for $10 and unlimited MMS for $5/month.
And if you are off-contract, there is a $10/month unlimited mobile browser add-on (you are not supposed to use it with smartphones and for tethering. But there is a loophole people on HoFo and RFD are using to workaround that. I'm nervous at the prospect of switching to this plan myself because UMB is technically not supposed to be used on smartphones or for tethering). Otherwise, data for the plan is pretty lacklustre. No $30/6 GB. They have $25/500 MB, $35/1 GB, $50/3 GB, $50/5 GB, $60/unlimited on-device without tethering.