HTC One X

[TC_Mits]

If I now understand you correctly, we agree on what's happening and only differ on how best to respond.

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[tech4fun]

Why Google want to kill SD card?

You know this is not a new trend, as the article states there are good reasons to have no SD Card slot.

[TC_Mits]

Why Google want to kill SD card?

You know this is not a new trend, as the article states there are good reasons to have no SD Card slot.

The article is mostly BaSeless. This sentence quoted from it made good sense though:

"Unfortunately, there is no reason why larger internal storage should preclude the option of an SD card slot."

They also mention a widget problem with apps on SD. Developers have been both begging and cursing at Google to fix this exact problem for over a year. Google barely even responds and steadfastly refuses even to raise priority on the bug. It's a circular argument because Google can fix that widget problem whenever it chooses.

To me, this adds up to a smokescreen -- the reasons advanced in the article are contrived rationalizations. The real reason Google is killing Android external storage are to be found elsewhere.


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[tech4fun]

It is easy enough to prove the loading issue I seen it time after time.
Any app on the external SD card is loaded after every thing else.

It is easy to imagine when the Hardware is not controlled you have issues.
For example getting a cheap SD card, not being able to watch movies, who get blamed.... Google.

I remember and know about the move to external SD card issue, over head.

Some things maybe equally as important, they may not say so but maybe they worried about piracy.

As the article states the HTC One X is not the first with no external SD slot and I do not think it be the last.

[skomes]

Why Google want to kill SD card?

You know this is not a new trend, as the article states there are good reasons to have no SD Card slot.

The article is mostly BaSeless. This sentense quoted from it made good sense though:

"Unfortunately, there is no reason why larger internal storage should preclude the option of an SD card slot."

They also mention a widget problem with apps on SD. Developers have been both begging and cursing at Google to fix this exact problem for over a year. Google barely even responds and steadfastly refuses even to raise priority on the bug. It's a circular argument because Google can fix that widget problem whenever it chooses.

To me, this adds up to a smokescreen -- the reasons advanced in the article are contrived rationalizations. The real reason Google is killing Android external storage are to be found elsewhere.


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That article was intensely stupid.

According to the article, Google is killing the SD slot because the OS can't do many things with SD apps. But Google makes the OS and could easily modify it to take advantage of the SD card instead of limiting those apps.

What nonsensical logic.


Article:
"Rovio claimed it would be launching a syncing service for Angry Birds this past summer, but that never happened. Even so, it shouldn't be on individual app developers to create that service. Google may want to remove SD cards from the equation in order to make sure all apps get the most capabilities available in Android, but before that can happen, Google needs a more complete syncing option. "

Nothing in that quote his relevant to the rest of the article. The author keeps going on about syncing but only to make the article longer.

Honestly, pretty badly written, seems like an 18yr old wrote that thing.

Also the author waxes on idiotically about the cloud, ignoring the fact that in North America, a large smartphone market, no longer has unlimited data plans. I could put all my music on to Google's music service and stream it, but I'd both destroy my data limit and my battery. I could stream everything now but my battery would only last me 1/3 of a day.

I like Phonearena's phone reviews, but whoever wrote that was just grasping at straws to create a filler article.


I really thought this phone or the Xperia would be my next phone, I wanted to get away from Samsung after my Captivate had the random shutdown issue. But neither provides a MicroSD slot. I can't store my GPS maps, 4-5 gigabytes of music and Titanium backups and still record some videos and take pictures with 16GB of space.

I use a 16GB card now and have considered upgrading to a 32GB card. I've used my phone a lot to take videos b/c my camera videos suck, and 720p videos take up a lot of space, way more than a phone can hold. I'd have to be offloading videos while I'm on vacation, which is stupid.

At this point my only hope is Samsung. And I think they will come through because the Galaxy Note has a MicroSD slot. So if Samsung keeps the slot, they'll have earned a lot of loyalty from me for being the only manufacturer to do so.

[tech4fun]

According to the article, Google is killing the SD slot because the OS can't do many things with SD apps. But Google makes the OS and could easily modify it to take advantage of the SD card instead of limiting those apps.

What nonsensical logic.

What is nonsensical about it the word that comes in mind is "overhead", sure they can patch the OS so it can access external hardware and they did starting Android 2.2 but it adds code and something outside of Google's control.


Also the author waxes on idiotically about the cloud, ignoring the fact that in North America, a large smartphone market, no longer has unlimited data plans.

Rogers never had a unlimited plan but 10Gig a month for me is as close to unlimited that I will ever need.

You know I really do not care if you can not live with 16 gig, it sounds like you will not buy this device. Good luck with Samsung.

[skomes]

According to the article, Google is killing the SD slot because the OS can't do many things with SD apps. But Google makes the OS and could easily modify it to take advantage of the SD card instead of limiting those apps.

What nonsensical logic.

What is nonsensical about it the word that comes in mind is "overhead", sure they can patch the OS so it can access external hardware and they did starting Android 2.2 but it adds code and something outside of Google's control.


Also the author waxes on idiotically about the cloud, ignoring the fact that in North America, a large smartphone market, no longer has unlimited data plans.

Rogers never had a unlimited plan but 10Gig a month for me is as close to unlimited that I will ever need.

You know I really do not care if you can not live with 16 gig, it sounds like you will not buy this device. Good luck with Samsung.

1. I wasn't trying to make you care about myself, I was criticizing the poorly thought out article you linked because you clearly bought it wholesale. Think as you read next time, you'll learn more.

2. If you use proper quotations, as above, you'll make much more readable posts.

3. Obviously Rogers never had unlimited data, read what I wrote carefully. I said North America.

The US had unlimited data plans but doesn't any longer.

Also, 2 years of dropbox is pointless given that to maintain that level of storage past the first 2 years, you have to pay $100/year for the 50GB plan

4. How much 'overhead' could there be? Apps on SD work fine now except for some missing features which Google hasn't decided to implement. Implementing a few features, like widgets from SD cards would add too much overhead?
I'd like to see some basis for that comment, since you're clearly making stuff up.

5. The international versions of this phone have 32GB of storage space with only 26GB is usable. So even with 16GB of storage, available space will be 3-4 gigabytes less than that.

HTC cut down storage space for NA carriers to reduce costs.

But the article you linked to says internal storage is quite cheap now, so why are they reducing internal storage?

Like I said above, you should try thinking as you read, you'll learn more.

If you like being a sucker, by all means, go ahead.

[tech4fun]

Also, 2 years of dropbox is pointless given that to maintain that level of storage past the first 2 years, you have to pay $100/year for the 50GB plan

Doubt I will use it much anyway.

[Gordon Gartrell]

Also, 2 years of dropbox is pointless given that to maintain that level of storage past the first 2 years, you have to pay $100/year for the 50GB plan

Doubt I will use it much anyway.

I'm pretty sure that two years from now the 50gb plan will be free and 100-200gb will be the $100/year plan. Most competitors are offering 50gb of storage anyways.

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[TC_Mits]

To me, the cost of cloud storage is nothing when compared to the data usage charges you incur when you retrieve it.

The entire point -- to me -- is that any media (music, movies, videos, photos, etc.) that you store on the web -- in "the cloud" -- is billable data usage that counts against your plan's cap. And if you have a grandfathered unlimited plan using too much can still get you throttled the same as too much YouTube or Netflix can.

On the other hand, media you keep on your phone -- in internal, or external SD Card storage -- is yours to use as freely as you wish and it will not affect your data cap or throttling threshold AT ALL.

Then if posters in this thread have capped data plans or throttling concerns, why would you add to your data consumption and/or throttling anxiety by putting your media in the web "cloud"?

Makes no sense at all to me.


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[Steve Punter]

I primarily use Dropbox/Sugarsync as offsite backup for important files (which I encrypt). As for cell phone usage, I have all of my photographs and videos automatically backed up onto Sugarsync and my Titanium Backups copied to Dropbox. Beyond that, I use them as a file-sharing mechanisms between friends.

[TC_Mits]

I primarily use Dropbox/Sugarsync as offsite backup for important files (which I encrypt). As for cell phone usage, I have all of my photographs and videos automatically backed up onto Sugarsync and my Titanium Backups copied to Dropbox. Beyond that, I use them as a file-sharing mechanisms between friends.

+1
Yes, that's kind of my idea of sensible use of cloud storage. Not streaming my own music and video and paying data charges for the privilege.

I would keep a local copy of any music or video I use regularly.

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[pfeifer80]

Looks like we might have a release date finally. April 20th possibly.

http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/04/11/ro...on-april-20th/

[tech4fun]

Hope it is white I rather have white and Phandroid is reporting the black people have seen paint chips.

[Eluder]

I would assume it's white considering the Rogers page shows the white version, as does the HTC site.