Metroflash is over.

**allmanallpimp** · 04-16-2012, 01:58 AM

$70 is way too much for a carrier like metro... we can get prices like that from sprint after discounts... discounts aren't hard to obtain at all... credit unions, place of employment, etc offer them... i'm waiting for sprint to launch lte and hopefully, they will remain uncapped with no slow downs with their 99 pricing... i'll find a huge discount and head on over...

**fdbryant3** · 04-16-2012, 11:43 AM

I keep seeing the $70 is too much mantra - we can get similar pricing at VAST-m but the factor I don't see being counted is the taxes and fees which range from 10-22% depending on where you live. Sure on the low end it isn't too bad and might be worth it, but if you in a state on the high end, well it is a difference maker in my opinion. And of course I haven't seen anyone confirm what is actually being counted against your data usage - truly everything, or just streaming type apps.

Forntunately for me I currently don't need unlimited data and $50 grandfathered plans work just fine.

**htcgoogle** · 04-19-2012, 09:39 PM

while metro flash is over all these people will do is use the same method people have been using to place htc evo 4g, samsung epic 4g and other phones that are sprint and verizon branded logo phones onto the boost mobile side of sprint... they will use a donor phone and do an esn repair so all this does is give more business to those type of people who make money off of that crap as it is not a good idea to do an esn repair. one can find this at xda by like doing a search for evo 4g on boost mobile....

**allmanallpimp** · 04-20-2012, 01:26 AM

be careful with the esn repair... unspeakable things on this forum, but yes, you are correct...

**fatalfury** · 04-20-2012, 06:31 PM

what a crock of crap.....

been saying this crap for years.....

metropcs flashing will not end we are a authorized dealer and have never received such notice..

also talked with houidini contract is still effective and also talked with a head honcho in metropcs he/she also says this is false

rumors...

when will the drama ******** ever end....

**ChazzMatt** · 04-21-2012, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by fatalfury

what a crock of crap.....

been saying this crap for years.....

metropcs flashing will not end we are a authorized dealer and have never received such notice..

also talked with houidini contract is still effective and also talked with a head honcho in metropcs he/she also says this is false

rumors...

when will the drama ******** ever end....

Since the moderator started the thread with his own knowledge and since it's ALSO been reported in the press, perhaps you should read it again and see exactly what you don't understand?

Let's see if you have enough comprehension to answer a few questions. Are you in a "legacy market"? ( And do you know what that is before you answer the question?)

I will now explain what you couldn't understand before you posted. This is the article that was in the media, and it's quoting solid sources.

http://www.phonenews.com/metropcs-en...service-20154/

MetroPCS has ended actively offering its MetroFLASH CDMA handset flashing service after being the first US carrier to offer such a service when it was first offered in the carrier’s non-AWS markets beginning in 2008.

Do you see the bolded words?

The carrier has ended the acquisition of licenses for the Houdini flashing service
and all dealers are being instructed to cease offering the service in legacy markets,
with any and every reference to the service to be eliminated by the end of this month.

Again, do you see the bolded words? Does it say they CANCELLED the licenses? No. Means they won't be buying new ones. When these expire or whatever the contracted terms are, the licenses wont be renewed/fees paid. Plus, no new licenses from now on -- like for new stores.

Says dealers are "being instructed". Does not say "been instructed".

Says references to be removed "by the end of this month". Not the end of the month yet, is it?

Sounds like a "process", and Metro has made the decision now to end this. A company like Metro often can't do something instantly. Takes some time to "wind down" stuff that has been in place for 4 years.

_____________

Plus if you read carefully, it allows some wiggle room. "Cease offering the service" doesn't mean you still can't do it, as long as the licenses are active, does it? Could be interpreted to mean listing the MetroFlash service in ads, on store windows, actively encouraging customers to bring their phones in to be flashed.

But it does mean Metro is quashing this particular officially recognized and advertised service. It will no longer be officially recognized and advertised. MetroPCS corporation will no longer endorse this practice. Corporate stores definitely won't do it any more. If "authorized dealers" do it, you would have to bear the expense and you won't receive any support from MetroPCS.

Are your Houdini licenses paid for by MetroPCS? When do they expire? Or when is payment due? How much are they? Is this a cost you are willing to bear yourself?

After the end of the month, will MetroPCS accept Houndini transfers?

__________

As Metro moves forward to pushing LTE and capping CDMA, "flashed" phones which cannot work on LTE will be 2nd rate phones no matter how well they worked on other carrier's networks. This is why MetroPCS Corporation is ending this service. If you, as an "authorized dealer" wish to continue flashing phones and you find a way to do it, you are free to do it.

**fatalfury** · 04-27-2012, 04:38 PM

were still ticking and no notice yet....

**rikrok25** · 04-28-2012, 12:09 AM

I recently received email regarding "about metro flash being over"..Not to say Mr Evil isn't correct, but this email states that metro flash will continue, but that the project to enable data on these flashed phones is what is coming to an end. not that it really matters though

**fatalfury** · 05-01-2012, 01:30 PM

NOt so we already know the new solution how the data will work if they chose to end the data on metro flashed phones

and metropcs just updated there site....

http://www.metropcs.com/metro/houdinisoft/index.jsp

so like i said and i will say it again Metroflash isnt going anywhere.....

**RaYtHaMaN** · 05-02-2012, 04:18 PM

Well I'm over in NY and this AWS won't let us flash phones. I can only imagine how much money I would be bringing in If I could flash an iPhone 4S .... One can only dream. All I can do is advertise the Connect and tell them how much their iPhone's look like a piece of ***** compared to the Connect. All reality al it has over the iPhone is the 4G and Android

**L0GiC4L 3ViL** · 05-03-2012, 02:07 AM

Originally Posted by fatalfury

NOt so we already know the new solution how the data will work if they chose to end the data on metro flashed phones

and metropcs just updated there site....

http://www.metropcs.com/metro/houdinisoft/index.jsp

so like i said and i will say it again Metroflash isnt going anywhere.....

No metro did not update their site it has been that way for awhile now.

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**odman13** · 06-01-2012, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by ChazzMatt

Since the moderator started the thread with his own knowledge and since it's ALSO been reported in the press, perhaps you should read it again and see exactly what you don't understand?

Let's see if you have enough comprehension to answer a few questions. Are you in a "legacy market"? ( And do you know what that is before you answer the question?)

I will now explain what you couldn't understand before you posted. This is the article that was in the media, and it's quoting solid sources.

http://www.phonenews.com/metropcs-en...service-20154/

Do you see the bolded words?

Again, do you see the bolded words? Does it say they CANCELLED the licenses? No. Means they won't be buying new ones. When these expire or whatever the contracted terms are, the licenses wont be renewed/fees paid. Plus, no new licenses from now on -- like for new stores.

Says dealers are "being instructed". Does not say "been instructed".

Says references to be removed "by the end of this month". Not the end of the month yet, is it?

Sounds like a "process", and Metro has made the decision now to end this. A company like Metro often can't do something instantly. Takes some time to "wind down" stuff that has been in place for 4 years.

_____________

Plus if you read carefully, it allows some wiggle room. "Cease offering the service" doesn't mean you still can't do it, as long as the licenses are active, does it? Could be interpreted to mean listing the MetroFlash service in ads, on store windows, actively encouraging customers to bring their phones in to be flashed.

But it does mean Metro is quashing this particular officially recognized and advertised service. It will no longer be officially recognized and advertised. MetroPCS corporation will no longer endorse this practice. Corporate stores definitely won't do it any more. If "authorized dealers" do it, you would have to bear the expense and you won't receive any support from MetroPCS.

Are your Houdini licenses paid for by MetroPCS? When do they expire? Or when is payment due? How much are they? Is this a cost you are willing to bear yourself?

After the end of the month, will MetroPCS accept Houndini transfers?

__________

As Metro moves forward to pushing LTE and capping CDMA, "flashed" phones which cannot work on LTE will be 2nd rate phones no matter how well they worked on other carrier's networks. This is why MetroPCS Corporation is ending this service. If you, as an "authorized dealer" wish to continue flashing phones and you find a way to do it, you are free to do it.

If there is a bigger douche on the internet I'm sure someday you will attempt to exceed even that level of douchery, however until that day you are **** #1. Congrats at being good at something. This article is a joke. There are no "quoting solid sources" anywhere in the article.

Stores are still flashing phones. They still have their website showing what phones will be flashed. http://www.metropcs.com/metroflash check it out.

**for2njr** · 06-02-2012, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by odman13

Stores are still flashing phones. They still have their website showing what phones will be flashed. http://www.metropcs.com/metroflash check it out.

The website is inaccurate. Several of the locations indicated by the website as "with MetroFLASH® capability" actually lost their Houdini privileges a long time ago...they end up sending customers to me. In fact, only one of my own stores has an active Houdini account but the website shows two.

**robertron** · 06-17-2012, 01:58 PM

The corporate stores are apparently still doing Metroflash. None of the dealers seem to be doing it anymore though. It's a major inconvenience. The closest corporate store is 30 miles from where I live.

**bibbin** · 06-24-2012, 06:06 PM

Speaking as a MetroPCS customer who owns numerous Metroflashed devices (Sprint Rumor, Vogue, Hero, Diamond, Mogul, Touch Pro and 2 Touch Pro 2), I think MetroPCS is doing itself a great disservice by ending Metroflash. But for the flashing service, I would never have signed up with Metro.

I've always enjoyed the ease of dialing *228 and switching devices at will. After rocking the Touch Pro for quite some time, I recently tried to witch devices (to another flashed device) and was met with a voice notice that I'd have to switch my plan. The notice stated that the price would remain the same ($40) and the list of features seemed to be the same too. Not wanting to risk it, I ended the call. Anyone have any idea what that's all about?