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I know a few dozen people that would gladly buy a smartphone without a data plan. I myself would like it. In fact, my favorite method of prepaid was a carrier that let you have PAYG data for 1 day, pay when you use it, don't pay when you don't. That suited me very well. 99% of the time I'm on WiFi, I don't need cellular data except when on extended trips or whatnot, and even then I probably won't have 4G where I'm going. Unfortunately, that was a prepaid plan that didn't allow outside-core-network roaming, and the carrier's coverage wasn't large enough.
Why do they do this? Oligopoly is one reason. Second: Carriers force data plans so they can self-justify to their shareholders that customers want data plans. Then they can self-justify 4G. They're driving the market all by themselves, and for the most part, due to contracts, ETFs, and feature locks, there is no true consumer choice.
Sure, there are prepaid alternatives. I've used most of them to try them out. They work ok, but if you want a network with coverage that suits you (such as Verizon postpaid) with a handset you choose and features you want, you can't get it. Carriers like AT&T used to be an option, but now that they are doing IMEI-stalking plan-switching, you can't even get a postpaid feature phone plan without data and use an iPhone, for example, as they'll force you onto an iPhone data plan.
The other aspect: Feature phones have been completely commoditized. If you want a feature phone of good build quality.....they just don't exist anymore. This helps force more users onto smartphones (which again helps self-justify that smartphone use is increasing, justifying data network usage, appeasing shareholders that the course the carriers are choosing is the "correct" one.)
With the cable example others are using, there are now alternatives to cable, and though sometimes lackluster in comparison, they're growing fast (AppleTV, Netflix, Amazon VOD, etc.) Even Cable has more consumer choice than cellular, in that regard.
That said, at least it seems Verizon is doing a good job of putting at least some of this forced revenue to work, building out their LTE network at an incredible pace. So I suppose there is some benefit. For those who rarely use mobile data though, it's totally not worth the cost of entry.
Enough already with the sob stories. Prepaid smart phones would be an alternative solution to the dilemma. Complaining about the big cellular carriers will not accomplish anything as it will fall on deaf ears with them.
If I'm annoyed and you're annoyed, does that make us a paranoid ??
Sarcasm is a fine art...
"Don't believe everything you think"
It's not a matter of if you win or lose, it's how you assign the blame
HD will not make poor quality content good, other than in the initial WOW period, which was like 5+ years ago now for HD. It makes good quality content look good.
I usually support government regulation, but It is unfortunate that the government over-regulated and killed the AT&T/ T-Mobile Merger
The best explanation of the pricing nutiness in the industry.
Why Sprint and T-Mo will always suck.
The only way to end the pricing insanity is to eliminate contracts and subsidies.
I want Wifi calling on AT&T.
If you text while driving, you're an idiot. End of story.
It just keeps getting better...
I don't understand why some people seem to struggle with the fact that Verizon requires a data plan on almost all smart phones.
This conversation is getting nowhere. Verizon is the largest US carrier, they have plenty of customers willing to pay for the data on their smartphones. At the end of the day, that's all that they care about. While I'm sure there are plenty of people who feel the same way as you and don't believe they should have to pay for data, there are plenty more who are willing to pay. Since plan's are in fact getting more expensive as time goes on, I wouldn't hold my breath in hopes of them removing the requirement or at least backing down the cost.
Boom goes the dynamite...