Suddenly receiving MMS: Video Messaging charges: Why?

[GVRD777]

I've used MMS several times previously. I havent changed my plan.

I have unlimited incoming and 2500 outgoing SMS text messaging plan.
I have 6 GB data

I've sent MMS messaging before, never been charged, but on my last bill I have been charged $.50 each.
Has something changed with Rogers?

[WorldIRC]

^Well....you don't have MMS in your plan...so that is why you're being charged. Maybe there was a billing glitch but now you're being correctly charged, based on your rate plan / features.

Your 6GB has nothing to do with MMS.

[GVRD777]

IC. If MMS has nothing to do with data, then why is it when someone sends me an MMS I won't be able to retrieve it unless data mode is enabled?

Also, am I supposed to charged for receiving MMS? Can I block receiving MMS or should there be a setting in my phone?

[WorldIRC]

MMS travels over data, but is charged as a separate service. Just like visual voicemail travels over data, but is a separate service. Just like My Account travels over data, but is a separate, non-chargeable service.

Receiving MMS should be free.

[GVRD777]

Thanks for the clarification

[CGY Guy]

Just like My Account travels over data, but is a separate, non-chargeable service.

I didn't know that. Thanks!

[Guest 260]

Actually MMS is delivered using a combination of WAP push (encoded SMS) and HTTP. WAP push 'wakes up' the device and provides it a url to download the MMS. When sending, the device sends over http using the POST method.

Visual Voicemail uses the IMAP (email) protocol to syncronize the Voicemail box, it's really just an email box.

[WorldIRC]

Your "POST" method and your "IMAP" protocol still require data connectivity...

[Treatz]

Actually MMS is delivered using a combination of WAP push (encoded SMS) and HTTP. WAP push 'wakes up' the device and provides it a url to download the MMS. When sending, the device sends over http using the POST method.

Visual Voicemail uses the IMAP (email) protocol to syncronize the Voicemail box, it's really just an email box.

Yes, using mms.gprs.rogers.com which is an event based charge.
you pay per event without a plan.

receiving is free, sending costs. I can't recall if the price changed but it used to be $0.50 per

[HowEver]

Before I expanded one line to the 250 send/receive which includes SMS/MMS, I was charged separately for incoming MMS.

Now I send/receive them through iMessage all the time, so obviously no separate charge for that, which is data; or, failing that, they come in as one of 250 messages.

[Guest 260]

Your "POST" method and your "IMAP" protocol still require data connectivity...

Correct, of course. I was just trying to expand on the technical side, i.e. MMS delivery also uses SMS, to deliver the WAP push. This SMS is not billed, neither the data traffic to download the MMS.

[bubble.tea]

^Well....you don't have MMS in your plan...so that is why you're being charged. ....

huh??

...Receiving MMS should be free.

did you just contradict yourself?

I'm sure I don't have an MMS bucket...yet I've received them in past with PPU charges.

[WorldIRC]

^No, I wasn't contradicting myself. You quoted two posts where I was responding to two different questions.

The first asked why he was being charged for "sent" MMS. I answered that he didn't have an MMS plan.

Then he asked if he was supposed to be charged for "receiving" MMS. I answered that no, he shouldn't be charged.

Receiving MMS is free. If you've been charged, you need to look into that because as far as I know, receiving is free. As long as I continue to believe that is the case, then no, I am not contradicting myself.

[theplayground]

I was always under the impression that if u weren't on any messeging plan, u wud also get charged for recieving.

[theplayground]

which really doesn't make sense.................because then both parties are paying for it. The reciever and the sender............