Galaxy S III - May release (or, May not)

[Tendenzi]

Point is I prefer android and decided to publicly disagree with you.

That's awesome.

Your short-sighted opinions on functionality/applications leaves a little confusion on what you're really basing things on for comparison. For example: Windows 8's metro UI doesn't jive with me either, metroUI is entirely a gesture based concept that doesn't feel the same on a desktop computer.

However, I have to ask if you even owned a WP7 or just tried some demo model at a phone store for 5 minutes to base your opinion off of? I won't blame you either way. It's just odd, because the phone's OS is built for functioning out of box with minimal need for many of the popular apps people do download.

A quick example would be how you simply would post to twitter and Facebook, it's night-and-day experiences on WP7 to another platform. Granted I'm not trying to argue your opinion and convince you otherwise. Just something I find odd. Apps are a challenge on WP7, but this is a developer issue. If no one made a single app for either android or WP7 and you took both phones out of box, I wonder what would be preferred.

Fortunately MS, unlike RIM, has far too much interest and money to throw at this problem that I'm not worried for WP7's future like say, RIMs. It's only going to get better, on all platforms.

Also, for a kid your age, I really appreciate the level of maturity and thought, as well as simply grammatical skills you have in your writing. Here, and on other social networks around the web keep up the good attitude and work.

[Zemog]

it's boring because of how many iterated devices there are. The GS2 to the Nexus S, Moto Droid RAZR, to the LG Optimus line, with Android it's hardware after hardware after hardware, with an OS that blends between all versions of the hardwares. Now I love the hardware on some of those models, and think it's a shame that such beautifully constructed devices get wasted shoving us with the latest or minor-updated versions of Android, I just want an option to at least have WP7 on it.

Both OS' are licensed to the OEM, why can't the OEM offer the consumer slightly more choice in what OS is installed? I won't be going back to android ever again, not after the constant forced attempts I tried to actually use and "enjoy" it. I just don't like Android. I feel like when I'm using it, it's trying too hard to not be another certain OS with an "i" in it. The experience and productivity values in WP7 fit perfectly for me. It's also really just beautifully done. App development aside. WP7 is a by far superior platform for just getting **** done. Kind of like what RIM wished BB6,7,and 10 will be.

Hi Tendenzi
Regarding the OEM android license thing I say:
Samsung android : Root, Rinse (the bloatware away), Flash a good rom.....Enjoy
I have no confidence in WP7/8 til M$ shows me otherwise
Cheers

[Tendenzi]

Hi Tendenzi
Regarding the OEM android license thing I say:
Samsung android : Root, rinse (the bloatware away), flash a good rom.....enjoy
I have no confidence in WP7/8 til M$ shows me otherwise
Cheers

That's the point isn't it? You won't buy anything that doesn't appeal to you. For me, your description for a remedy is entirely displeasing and confusing why this is a good solution ever. I don't like to **** around too much with my stuff.

Anyways, not to debate, I won't be touching Android again, it's going to be WP7, iOS or if RIM every resurrects and makes BB10 viable, that OS.

[Zemog]

Ah, no worries.
I just like to mess around with my stuff and make it the way "I" want, to each his own.
Sorry to displease You.
I don't think Google will be offended if you don't touch android again

[Prevailing Wind]

That's the point isn't it? You won't buy anything that doesn't appeal to you. For me, your description for a remedy is entirely displeasing and confusing why this is a good solution ever. I don't like to **** around too much with my stuff.

Anyways, not to debate, I won't be touching Android again, it's going to be WP7, iOS or if RIM every resurrects and makes BB10 viable, that OS.

I really agree with you on this point. It looks like I'm going to have to wait until June for the ICS update, and it's already been "officially" available to users elsewhere for like a month already.

I do NOT want to go through the trouble of rooting my phone and doing all sorts of technical stuff to get it to do what I want to do.

That is why Apple and Microsoft are so appealing. They do a good job of keeping their phones updated.

Google's Android is far too fragmented and it's only getting worse.

[savbers]

That's awesome.

Your short-sighted opinions on functionality/applications leaves a little confusion on what you're really basing things on for comparison. For example: Windows 8's metro UI doesn't jive with me either, metroUI is entirely a gesture based concept that doesn't feel the same on a desktop computer.

However, I have to ask if you even owned a WP7 or just tried some demo model at a phone store for 5 minutes to base your opinion off of? I won't blame you either way. It's just odd, because the phone's OS is built for functioning out of box with minimal need for many of the popular apps people do download.

A quick example would be how you simply would post to twitter and Facebook, it's night-and-day experiences on WP7 to another platform. Granted I'm not trying to argue your opinion and convince you otherwise. Just something I find odd. Apps are a challenge on WP7, but this is a developer issue. If no one made a single app for either android or WP7 and you took both phones out of box, I wonder what would be preferred.

Fortunately MS, unlike RIM, has far too much interest and money to throw at this problem that I'm not worried for WP7's future like say, RIMs. It's only going to get better, on all platforms.

Also, for a teen, I really appreciate the level of maturity and thought, as well as simply grammatical skills you have in your writing. Here, and on other social networks around the web keep up the good attitude and work.

(had to fix that, I don't like being called a kid - and thanks for the compliment)

Yes, I have tried MANY Windows Phone 7 devices in store, when they were first released I tried them at the Bell store, TELUS store, and WIND store.

But you'll have to understand I said, "prefer android". The whole thing of fragmentation is catching up and starting to hamper the brand (for many more, but it hasn't really affected me).
WP7 doesn't have as much potential functionality as android has.
And many other things about the notification/multitasking system.

And also as you (somehow - no really how'd you know) knew I was a teenager, I'm not looking for a phone with "just the internet".
I want to add much more functionality to my phone (games, forums, social networking, banking). I want a phone I can show off and say, "isn't it cool?" or at least have someone say, "whoa, so cool!". But most of all I don't want a smartphone to feel like a toy (the main reason I turned away from the Galaxy Nexus).

The iPhone is a toy in functionality (because I don't care about music) compared to android.
Windows Phone 7 looks like a toy and is missing some core functionality that I can add to android.

Android is the only operating system that I can actually say, "wow, I can do more than just enjoy my phone, I can use my phone for something useful."

With all that being said, I'm not completely turned off from Windows Phone, more potential functionality will make it a contender with android and if RIM does it right, they'll be fighting with Windows Phone for that spot.

(Right now I know how you know - YouTube).

[onemorecanuck]

Yeah, so, GS3 announcement tomorrow...

[Tendenzi]

(had to fix that, I don't like being called a kid - and thanks for the compliment)

sorry about that, no offence really it's just how I understand the definition of "kid" as defined by others as well, LINK.

The iPhone is a toy in functionality (because I don't care about music) compared to android.

Odd, again that word, "functionality" comes into play, I'd be interested to start a relevant thread on this with you, it doesn't make sense to me what you're referring to. Especially with respect to Android vs iOS, which both can do exactly the same things. If you're definition of "functionality" is "customization" then disregard.

Windows Phone 7 looks like a toy and is missing some core functionality that I can add to android.

<- customization you mean?

Android is the only operating system that I can actually say, "wow, I can do more than just enjoy my phone, I can use my phone for something useful."

yeah, but what can it do that any other smartphone platform can't for "useful" sake.

(Right now I know how you know - YouTube).

Yes, you messaged me there. Wasn't creeping Google for you.

[Humza]

sorry about that, no offence really it's just how I understand the definition of "kid" as defined by others as well, LINK.

Odd, again that word, "functionality" comes into play, I'd be interested to start a relevant thread on this with you, it doesn't make sense to me what you're referring to. Especially with respect to Android vs iOS, which both can do exactly the same things. If you're definition of "functionality" is "customization" then disregard.
<- customization you mean?
yeah, but what can it do that any other smartphone platform can't for "useful" sake.
Yes, you messaged me there. Wasn't creeping Google for you.

You're using Wiki Answers for your link? Come on TZ :P. You can do better then that. Anyone can simply go on to that site and type up any repose they'd like. In general though what I believe is, newborn!=infant!=baby!=kid != teenager != adult != senior.

[savbers]

sorry about that, no offence really it's just how I understand the definition of "kid" as defined by others as well, LINK.

Odd, again that word, "functionality" comes into play, I'd be interested to start a relevant thread on this with you, it doesn't make sense to me what you're referring to. Especially with respect to Android vs iOS, which both can do exactly the same things. If you're definition of "functionality" is "customization" then disregard.
<- customization you mean?
yeah, but what can it do that any other smartphone platform can't for "useful" sake.
Yes, you messaged me there. Wasn't creeping Google for you.

Yes I do mean customization.
But the customization is so core I call it functionality.

and we probably have different definitions of useful.

[Tendenzi]

You're using Wiki Answers for your link? Come on TZ :P. You can do better then that. Anyone can simply go on to that site and type up any repose they'd like. In general though what I believe is, newborn!=infant!=baby!=kid != teenager != adult != senior.

LOL. Look if I'm wrong I'm wrong, but the point still stands, I didn't mean to throw out "kid" as a prejudice slur towards him.

[Tendenzi]

Yes I do mean customization.
But the customization is so core I call it functionality.

and we probably have different definitions of useful.

"Useful" should be universally defined and understood... I hope we don't have different definitions. We probably have the same and that's why I was finding it hard to understand your rationalization when comparing your preferences. That's all. I'm not going to debate you and try and convince you anything different.

Plus this thread is going to die after tomorrow as new threads open up with "SAMSUNG ANNOUNCED NEW GALAXY WILL WORK ON WIND?!"

[Zemog]

I really agree with you on this point. It looks like I'm going to have to wait until June for the ICS update, and it's already been "officially" available to users elsewhere for like a month already.

I do NOT want to go through the trouble of rooting my phone and doing all sorts of technical stuff to get it to do what I want to do.

That is why Apple and Microsoft are so appealing. They do a good job of keeping their phones updated.

Google's Android is far too fragmented and it's only getting worse.

Yeah Apple is real good at updating their phones: it's called buy a new model every 6 months
Apple hasn't changed in 25 yrs: same proprietary, locked down B$ ad nauseum ...
MS keeps updating their phones because they NEED to, ie patch, patch, patch like the rest of their software.
Sorry, but TZ's elitist tone of voice is starting to give me a rash

[Tendenzi]

Yeah Apple is real good at updating their phones: it's called buy a new model every 6 months
Apple hasn't changed in 25 yrs: same proprietary, locked down B$ ad nauseum ...
MS keeps updating their phones because they NEED to, ie patch, patch, patch like the rest of their software.
Sorry, but TZ's elitist tone of voice is starting to give me a rash

Tones are implied by the reader. I cannot take liability for your own mental perceptions.

But you forgot the best over-generalization of platforms and companies. By your logic of MS and Apple we can follow your pattern and assume Android is nothing more than a ad serving, privacy invading platform.

Elitist tones indeed.

[savbers]

"Useful" should be universally defined and understood... I hope we don't have different definitions. We probably have the same and that's why I was finding it hard to understand your rationalization when comparing your preferences. That's all. I'm not going to debate you and try and convince you anything different.

Plus this thread is going to die after tomorrow as new threads open up with "SAMSUNG ANNOUNCED NEW GALAXY WILL WORK ON WIND?!"

Yes useful is universally defined. But we both most likely have very different ideas on what is useful and what it not. Thus the different definitions of useful.

You can go ahead and try to convince me. But WP still has a ways to go IMO.

Worse part is I'll probably be watching the live samsung event in school today. O.o

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