Signal/CPR/Hypersim issue on 007SH, any advice?

[cheeseus]

it DOES register to my carrier's network if I select "register automatically" but not if I select it manually. In the notification bar, it appears the name of my carrier but I have ZERO signal. With my Nokia I have 5 bars of signal. So I don't know if it's a signal problem because of the phone or the hypersim, or a carrier problem or what, but the result is that I still can't use the phone. I went to other part of my house, with a window and still got zero signal.

It's not a signal strength problem. Yes, it does "register" when you choose "register automatically" but that's not a working registration.

Try switching the 007SH to 3G only and register to the 3G network - if compatible, of course.

Also try to put both SIM + hypersim in that N82 and see if it works.

[SuperSZ]

It's not a signal strength problem. Yes, it does "register" when you choose "register automatically" but that's not a working registration.

Try switching the 007SH to 3G only and register to the 3G network - if compatible, of course.

Also try to put both SIM + hypersim in that N82 and see if it works.

When putting the iNex+SIM in the N82, I get this:



So, as it's SB-005 (and not SB-003) I confirmed that it's a version of the iNex which SHOULD THEORICALLY work with the 007SH.


after getting that message, it works on the N82 (displays carrier and signal bars), but if I reboot the N82 it appears in offline mode.

I have no 3g compatibility at all, with neither the N82 nor the 007SH

[bbocy]

I rmb that canadajphone once told me not all the cell phones could do CPR
Maybe you can try borrow ur friend's cell phone to do the CPR to see if it works...
(I know N95 works cuz I used it as CPR phone)

[SuperSZ]

I rmb that canadajphone once told me not all the cell phones could do CPR
Maybe you can try borrow ur friend's cell phone to do the CPR to see if it works...
(I know N95 works cuz I used it as CPR phone)

N82 is basicly the same as N95, but the difference is the form factor (and the fact that the N82 has xenon flash instead of lead). N82 is a "normal" phone and in theory it should be perfect for CPR.


The thing is that, right now in this whole phone issue I'm worse that I've ever imagined. At first I thought that with a hypersim that could recover signal I would have no problem at all and it would be like using a normal phone (so I bought the one the one from IPmart), then I realised that it wouldn't recover signal and that I would have to deal with CPR, and then I realise that I can't even do CPR and my new phone is completly useless .... with my luck, the next step would be that my 007SH magicaly stops working for no reason. I dunno if all this is my fault for having decided to get with an exotic phone instead of buying a galaxy s2 or something :/

[yamanote]

N82 is basicly the same as N82, but the difference is the form factor (and the fact that the N82 has xenon flash instead of lead). N82 is a "normal" phone and in theory it should be perfect for CPR.


The thing is that, right now in this whole phone issue I'm worse that I've ever imagined. At first I thought that with a hypersim that could recover signal I would have no problem at all and it would be like using a normal phone (so I bought the one the one from IPmart), then I realised that it wouldn't recover signal and that I would have to deal with CPR, and then I realise that I can't even do CPR and my new phone is completly useless .... with my luck, the next step would be that my 007SH magicaly stops working for no reason. I dunno if all this is my fault for having decided to get with an exotic phone instead of buying a galaxy s2 or something :/

Nokias sometimes don't work for CPR. As stolen from my guide (which was stolen from hwz):

1. Put your SIM card into a local phone. Preferred choice is Sony Ericsson or Samsung. Do not use Nokia or LG, unless you want to frequently do CPR.

Not sure what that means exactly as it was a direct C&P with minor edits, but I'd try a SE or Samsung non-smartphone to CPR. Personally I've had no issues with CPRing on a Nokia but that was on a non-smartphone (Nokia 6600s- runs S40).

[SuperSZ]

Nokias sometimes don't work for CPR.

Not sure what that means exactly as it was a direct C&P with minor edits, but I'd try a SE or Samsung non-smartphone to CPR. Personally I've had no issues with CPRing on a Nokia but that was on a non-smartphone (Nokia 6600s- runs S40).

oh ..... mmmm ... these are the phones in my house (which are not in use) : iPhone (first gen, unlocked), iPhone 3GS (unlocked), Nokia N97 (uses my carrier), and the already mentioned N82.

you're saying that I should buy a "new old" phone to get my 007SH working? ..... :/ ... damm... so many phones in my house and not a single one will fix my keitai :/

[martindesu]

It sounds like you're pretty young? I have a Nokia 6210 which still works, lying around here

The battery still lasts a week.

[cheeseus]

oh ..... mmmm ... these are the phones in my house (which are not in use) : iPhone (first gen, unlocked), iPhone 3GS (unlocked), Nokia N97 (uses my carrier), and the already mentioned N82.

you're saying that I should buy a "new old" phone to get my 007SH working? ..... :/ ... damm... so many phones in my house and not a single one will fix my keitai :/

Try the iPhones and if that fails, find a friend who has a Samsung and CPR on it. Preferably at your friend's place. It is not impossble that the cell tower where you are is too busy or for some other reason rejects connection attempts.

EDIT: A couple of weeks ago I was actually having the same problem - as the phone was working all right, it'd lose signal and wouldn't be able to reconnect. Even if I would successfully CPR on the 904SH, when I put the SIM + hypersim back in the 005SH, there'd still be no signal. I also tried to CPR only the SIM on an ancient Samsung - it would work there but as soon as I re-attached the hyperim (tried three different) - no signal. Eventually, the SIM (only) would no longer work on the Samsung.

So I went and asked for a SIM replacement (costs 7 USD here because I had to report it as "stolen/lost" - they wouldn't accept it as "defective" because of all the cutting and thinning down I'd done ). And it worked right away! I guess at some point the SIM gets "damaged" or something and will no longer work with the hypersim. So, my advice is, go and get yourself a new SIM card. First have it activated (call it) on the iPhone - let's assume that Nokias aren't much good for CPR purposes - and then attach the hypersim and try it on the 007SH.

EDIT: Have you checked if the 007SH actually detects the presence of a SIM inside (although the Nokia does detect it)? You can do this by enabling PIN input. If the phone doesn't ask you to input the PIN, then it is a SIM issue which should be solved by getting a replacement.

[SuperSZ]

It sounds like you're pretty young? I have a Nokia 6210 which still works, lying around here

The battery still lasts a week.

I'm 21 years old (still living with parents cause I go to university). My first phone was a Siemens A56 (I don't know what happened to it, I think it broke or something), then I got an Airam 340 which got stolen (it was a piece of sh*t phone anyways :P ), then a Nokia 3220 (which I think my father gave to a employee that needed it for his work as soon as I got the next phone), then I got a N95 which got stolen (this time not by a thief, but someone took it from my backpack (since that day I always carry my phone in the pocket)), and then the N82

Try the iPhones and if that fails, find a friend who has a Samsung and CPR on it. Preferably at your friend's place. It is not impossble that the cell tower where you are is too busy or for some other reason rejects connection attempts.

EDIT: A couple of weeks ago I was actually having the same problem - as the phone was working all right, it'd lose signal and wouldn't be able to reconnect. Even if I would successfully CPR on the 904SH, when I put the SIM + hypersim back in the 005SH, there'd still be no signal. I also tried to CPR only the SIM on an ancient Samsung - it would work there but as soon as I re-attached the hyperim (tried three different) - no signal. Eventually, the SIM (only) would no longer work on the Samsung.

So I went and asked for a SIM replacement (costs 7 USD here because I had to report it as "stolen/lost" - they wouldn't accept it as "defective" because of all the cutting and thinning down I'd done ). And it worked right away! I guess at some point the SIM gets "damaged" or something and will no longer work with the hypersim. So, my advice is, go and get yourself a new SIM card. First have it activated (call it) on the iPhone - let's assume that Nokias aren't much good for CPR purposes - and then attach the hypersim and try it on the 007SH.

EDIT: Have you checked if the 007SH actually detects the presence of a SIM inside (although the Nokia does detect it)? You can do this by enabling PIN input. If the phone doesn't ask you to input the PIN, then it is a SIM issue which should be solved by getting a replacement.

I will try the iPhones.
My SIM works alright I guess, because it works perfectly on the Nokia and it always asks for the PIN code (in both, 007SH and N82).

This is a noob question but, can I buy a new SIM but mantein the same old number? Or new SIM always equals new number?

And another question: I think the answer is yes, but just to be sure: a software unlock appart from removing the need of a hypersim would make the keitai search automatically for signal when it gets no signal, right?

[yamanote]

oh ..... mmmm ... these are the phones in my house (which are not in use) : iPhone (first gen, unlocked), iPhone 3GS (unlocked), Nokia N97 (uses my carrier), and the already mentioned N82.

you're saying that I should buy a "new old" phone to get my 007SH working? ..... :/ ... damm... so many phones in my house and not a single one will fix my keitai :/

Try with one of the iPhones- I used to use my 3GS to CPR my older keitais with no problem

[cheeseus]

I will try the iPhones.

Do try! You're (almost) out of options...

My SIM works alright I guess, because it works perfectly on the Nokia and it always asks for the PIN code (in both, 007SH and N82).

Good, one possible reason croosed out.

This is a noob question but, can I buy a new SIM but mantein the same old number? Or new SIM always equals new number?

Yes

And another question: I think the answer is yes, but just to be sure: a software unlock appart from removing the need of a hypersim would make the keitai search automatically for signal when it gets no signal, right?

Yes. But the same goes for the hypersim (well, in most cases). I haven't had issues with mine. Even last weekend we went on a short journey to a nearby town (50 km) and the road passes through some low- or no-signal areas. I did lose signal a couple of times, but automatically regained it seconds or a minute later (as soon as within coverage).

Try doing the CPR in a different location, as I advised you earlier, under a different cell tower (I guess 500 meters away is enough) - the problem might also lie with yours. And try a Samsung or something else, different from a Nokia.

[SuperSZ]

Good news. I did CPR using the iPhone 3GS and now I get signal in my 007SH. Funny thing is: it worked with the hypersim that cheeseus recommended, but not with the iNex. First thing I did when I noticed that I had signal: turn on airplane mode, and then turn it off and see if it could get signal again from zero. It worked.

That's the good news, the bad news is: my mom would literally call the police if she tries to contact me for an hour and she can't. What does this have to do with all this?, well, I need a phone in which I can TRUST that I will always get signal. So.... if I really want to use my 007SH, these are the things I should always carry with me:

1) iPhone 3GS


2) This:

(for removing the SIM+Hypersim in case I have to re-do CPR, because those 2 things go very deep inside the 007SH and no human finger can get them out, unless you have very long nails)

3) Paper clip unfolded:

(the only way I can open the SIM tray on the iPhone so I can get the SIM)


I will call my carrier to see if they can do something so that they guarantee me more signal, or something. I doubt they can do anything, because I bet that maybe 10 people in my country knows what a keitai and hypersim is, and it's more likely that no one in my carrier knows.... I'm gonna do it anyways.


Conclusion:
Basicly if I wanna carry my 007SH I have to carry all those things with me in my backpack (when I go to university) ... and if I go somewhere else, in the pants pockets, and I would feel like a freak if I have to do all that in front of public if I notice that I have to CPR my 007SH :/


I NEED desperatly the software unlock (but 0% of chances that I send my phone to Rusia or anywhere else)



Second conclusion:
Locked keitais are a pain in the ***. If you, reader, are reading this and plan on buying one, DO NOT DO IT. These phones are beautiful, but impractical if you wanna use them as your every-day phone. In fact: if you need a 100% functional phone, do not even buy a keitai at all, because they're triband and there are high chances that of having signal problems (nothing to do with CPR, but with signal reception) if you travel to a region where there are no big cities, cause they use 850Mhz GSM band, or others that keitais don't have.

[yamanote]

Second conclusion:
Locked keitais are a pain in the ***. If you, reader, are reading this and plan on buying one, DO NOT DO IT. These phones are beautiful, but impractical if you wanna use them as your every-day phone. In fact: if you need a 100% functional phone, do not even buy a keitai at all, because they're triband and there are high chances that of having signal problems (nothing to do with CPR, but with signal reception) if you travel to a region where there are no big cities, cause they use 850Mhz GSM band, or others that keitais don't have.

Glad to hear you got it working, but that's a bit over the top. I used to use hypersimmed keitais as my only phone for many years and I had nary an issue with them (apart from when the phones themselves started to have issues, but that's another story for another day).

I get that I'm in Hong Kong, the city of cell signal, and thus not in the best position to talk about signal OUT and such but I'd say anyone in a major city can safely use a keitai as their only phone without major issues.

[aw614]

I still use my banana phone from time to time and usually never have much signal outage with hypersim

[martindesu]

Glad to hear you got it working, but that's a bit over the top.

I agree with Yamanote on this. Many of us have a long and enjoyable history with hypersims and keitas. I had fewer issues with then than my iPhone 4!

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