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    Quote Originally Posted by jdm2008 View Post
    If your month to month Verizon can change the rules at any times. So theoretically before September they can say no more Unlimited period and you would be SOL but people under contract would be good until their contract expired. Though I think it's a reasonable bet they would give some notice and some more time(not just 6 months).
    But yea you could just buy an unsubsidized phone and activate it. Though didn't Verizon used to have some phones where you could only activate it with a 2 year contract?
    Hmm, this sort of makes a new problem. If I use my $30 subsidy which is available starting next Wednesday, I could renew for 2 years definitely locking in unlimited data? I was really hoping for the Galaxy S3 because it's a phone that I would not need to upgrade for a long time since it'd meet my needs. So while it might be a pain in the butt, theoretically I could buy a 4G phone now with my subsidy and lock in unlimited data for 2 years, then sell it and buy an unsubsidized phone in the future? I'd most likely buy the cheapest 4G phone for now and defer the larger unsubsidized cost for a few months into the future.

    With that said, this is the other side of the conundrum: I like having unlimited data "just in case", but the truth is I haven't broken 1GB in six months. I'd rather have a cheap low-usage plan and I was hoping to tack on a phone unsubsidized and stay with Verizon month to month unless there was a way to renew the plan with an unsubsidized phone. I've been looking at T-Mobile's SIM-only plans and they're more reasonable, plus I can bring my own phone which would also work overseas for travel. I'm not trying to start a flame war or anything as I know T-Mobile's network can't compare to VZW but with the storage capacity of the S3 I would rarely even need to stream anything and I'd only use a couple hundred MB each month so the lesser network wouldn't really matter as much.

    Sorry if I'm rambling a bit, I've been really weighing all the options as to what to do with this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NowhereMan1985 View Post
    Do you have the site where you saw that? If that's true, that's a major deal breaker (for me).
    Look above about forty or so posts -- I put an SGSIII header line on the links.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NowhereMan1985 View Post
    Hmm, this sort of makes a new problem. If I use my $30 subsidy which is available starting next Wednesday, I could renew for 2 years definitely locking in unlimited data? I was really hoping for the Galaxy S3 because it's a phone that I would not need to upgrade for a long time since it'd meet my needs. So while it might be a pain in the butt, theoretically I could buy a 4G phone now with my subsidy and lock in unlimited data for 2 years, then sell it and buy an unsubsidized phone in the future? I'd most likely buy the cheapest 4G phone for now and defer the larger unsubsidized cost for a few months into the future.

    With that said, this is the other side of the conundrum: I like having unlimited data "just in case", but the truth is I haven't broken 1GB in six months. I'd rather have a cheap low-usage plan and I was hoping to tack on a phone unsubsidized and stay with Verizon month to month unless there was a way to renew the plan with an unsubsidized phone. I've been looking at T-Mobile's SIM-only plans and they're more reasonable, plus I can bring my own phone which would also work overseas for travel. I'm not trying to start a flame war or anything as I know T-Mobile's network can't compare to VZW but with the storage capacity of the S3 I would rarely even need to stream anything and I'd only use a couple hundred MB each month so the lesser network wouldn't really matter as much.

    Sorry if I'm rambling a bit, I've been really weighing all the options as to what to do with this.
    That's funny because my situation is almost identical. June 1st is my upgrade day, and I want the S3 too. I also use less than a gig but unlimited is impt for me because it has my employer discount(22%) and on the new plans that won't apply.
    Unlimited will apply with retail phones in the future. I guess you could do what you suggest but I'm not seeing the point. You could just wait till they announce the end of unlimited( I would think 99.9999% they would give at least some notice). And then buy the best phone you could find.
    But for the S3 I've been looking around and from what I've read it's 50% whether it will be out in time.
    About T-Mobile they trottle, I think Sprint has unlimited still(on their network)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdm2008 View Post
    So no SD card at all or just no 64gb?
    None. Zero - zip - zilch.
    Details with links posted about 40 posts back -- post ~#310 +/-.

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    About the No SD Card. He is refering to this.

    http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&i...i535_galaxy_s3

    However I didn't gather that there will be no SD card on the S3. No where on the link does it say that there will be no SD card support(and some things are listed as not supported).

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    Quote Originally Posted by NowhereMan1985 View Post
    I too have a plan with unlimited data that expires in September.
    Your next post says something about next Wednesday.

    Quote Originally Posted by NowhereMan1985 View Post
    How long can one presumably stay on a month-to-month plan after the contract ends? Would Verizon cancel it or force you to a plan after a while?
    Y'all chill out. First, the data is not part of the contract. IF and WHEN there is a change, and right now it appears any change would occur only at upgrade, it will be announced, it will be in the news, you will be notified, etc. So contract or not, no effect until you upgrade. That's per Brenda Rainey's press release posted a few pages back; also on verizon website.

    Quote Originally Posted by NowhereMan1985 View Post
    I intend to buy my next 4G phone unsubsidized so I can keep unlimited data. Since I wouldn't be going the subsidized route my plan wouldn't have to be renewed, correct? As long as I don't go the subsidized route I can just add a new phone at any time, even after the new data tiers are instated and it rolls over month to month?
    Correct. You may want to read press release.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdm2008 View Post
    About the No SD Card. He is refering to this.

    http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&i...i535_galaxy_s3

    However I didn't gather that there will be no SD card on the S3. No where on the link does it say that there will be no SD card support(and some things are listed as not supported).
    Please note asterisked reference to "expansion slots" below.

    And even if that didn't refer to SD cards, would Samsung forget -- or try to hide -- a major selling point on the SGSIII spec sheet? It's big and bold on the GSM 9300 international model.

    Steve and I don't always agree, but we both know there's no SD card support on the vzw CDMA LTE i535 model SGSIII:
    Quote Originally Posted by Steveanderson13 View Post
    The absence wasn't questioned...
    .
    LTE SGSIII *NO* SD CARD: "Not Supported"

    If you can find 64GB SD support here in the detailed i535 specs, please point it out to me:

    http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&i...i535_galaxy_s3

    Here's the "quick view" of the same i535 LTE model:
    http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&i...i535_galaxy_s3

    ***
    In the right-hand column, under "Interfaces" it shows:
    "Expansion Slots... Not Supported"
    ***

    As I noted sbove, in this thead about the potential demise of unlimited data, the cost to the consumer, in terms of data usage charges, of having no alternative to cloud-streaming personally owned media should be evident.


    Now, having made a huge deal out of it ...
    I really hope that by raising a fuss we can get the support restored before the release date. If it had a 64GB card I might just buy it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jdm2008 View Post
    If your month to month Verizon can change the rules at any times. So theoretically before September they can say no more Unlimited period and you would be SOL but people under contract would be good until their contract expired.
    Not quite that simple. And legally only partially correct. But ignore that and go by industry norms. Many people on all carriers go month-to-month with ancient, cheap plans that are no longer offered but the carriers dont force them off them. I've read of people even upgrading phones. As far as monthly vs contract, the data is not part of the contract anyway, so technically, any carrier could change at any time on all subscribers. They just dont do that. So there's no difference between contract and monthly. If you already have unlimited, a renewal does not extend it or change it.

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    It is a bad idea verizon killing unlimited data. New customers are looking for unlimited $30 data. thats the selling point. whats the problem if they use 7 or 10 gb. Verizon should invest better network if it gonna slow their network down..

    so in my opinion, verizon should have unlimited data for $30, and family share data.

    if it doesn't break, don't fix it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by NowhereMan1985 View Post
    If I use my $30 subsidy which is available starting next Wednesday, I could renew for 2 years definitely locking in unlimited data? .. theoretically I could buy a 4G phone now with my subsidy and lock in unlimited data for 2 years, then sell it and buy an unsubsidized phone in the future?
    Can't follow your dates. Next Wednesday NE2? What's in September? You're already locked in to unlimited data until IF it is changed. The best you can do is get a subdidized phone if done before any effective date. If changes are made, but you buy an unsubdidized phone, no changes to your data.

    Quote Originally Posted by NowhereMan1985 View Post
    I like having unlimited data "just in case", but the truth is I haven't broken 1GB in six months. I'd rather have a cheap low-usage plan and I was hoping to tack on a phone unsubsidized and stay with Verizon month to month unless there was a way to renew the plan with an unsubsidized phone. I've been looking at T-Mobile's SIM-only plans and they're more reasonable, plus I can bring my own phone which would also work overseas for travel. I'm not trying to start a flame war or anything as I know T-Mobile's network can't compare to VZW but with the storage capacity of the S3 I would rarely even need to stream anything and I'd only use a couple hundred MB each month so the lesser network wouldn't really matter as much
    Look at your max usage for the past year. That's the plan you need. You can always switch to less, if avail. You're not signing a contract for data (but you must pay a data amount as long as a smartphone is active). See who has good coverage where you go. Look at prepaid. Find a phone. If you find something good, sell your Verizon plan (on here all the time) and your phone.


    By the way, you cant buy Verizon phone and use on Tmo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveanderson13 View Post
    Can't follow your dates.
    Sorry, next Wednesday I'm eligible for my last NE2 credit which will be 20 months; 24 months would be September when my contract ends.

    My max usage was 5.5GB for the first two months I had my Droid X because I was always on 3G. Now I'm on WiFi most of the time so it's less than 1GB anyway.

    MicroSD: I guess we'll just have to wait and see if it does or doesn't. I took Interface>Expansion Slots to mean you can't connect peripherals or something, not necessarily MicroSD. The information isn't complete anyway so who knows.

    T-Mo Throttling: I am aware of this. The SIM only plan that interested me was 500 min/unlimited NW/unlimited messaging/2GB high speed data for $50. 2GB is more than enough for me and their "4G" is available in my area. If I were to leave Verizon, T-Mobile interests me also because of the international roaming capabilities and because it's the most cost effective solution. I did like some prepaid providers but most don't allow you to bring your own phone. Sprint isn't really an option since they have major capacity issues and are nearly as expensive as VZW anyway (I have the 18% employee discount which also supposedly disappearing). And ATT....forget it.

    Anyway, thanks everybody for the replies. It's good food for thought. I'm still stumped for now so I'm going to noodle it over the weekend.

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    I did not notice the expansion slots part...I stand corrected.
    I would not buy a phone with no sd card support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moto94536 View Post
    It is a bad idea verizon killing unlimited data. New customers are looking for unlimited $30 data. thats the selling point. whats the problem if they use 7 or 10 gb. Verizon should invest better network if it gonna slow their network down..

    so in my opinion, verizon should have unlimited data for $30, and family share data.

    if it doesn't break, don't fix it..
    New customers are not going to get unlimited $30 data on Verizon. Verizon has been investing in their network and massively improving and upgrading it. Verizon has also figured out that they can first addict the customers to massive data usage and tiered data is helping their bottom line, record profits. So now they're working to increase those record profits to an even larger record and that means cutting subsidies on the one hand, while the other hand snatches unlimited data away from as many subscribers as possible. The current scam that they're floating is pay "retail" price for the phone if you want to keep your unlimited data or give up your unlimited data to get a new phone with "upgrade" pricing. Now we just have to wait and see what happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NowhereMan1985 View Post
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    MicroSD: I guess we'll just have to wait and see if it does or doesn't. I took Interface>Expansion Slots to mean you can't connect peripherals or something, not necessarily MicroSD. The information isn't complete anyway so who knows...
    I'm gonna go way out on a limb here and say that I feel that I know that a major cellphone manufacturer like Samsung didn't accidentally forget to mention that it is pioneering the introduction of the 64GB SD card in the US. Nothing to wait to see. If we wait, it ain't there.

    Maybe... if we fuss a lot, it might quietly creep back in. Not likely, but, hey, Shammo backtracked after we fussed, right?


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