HTC One S on Telus supports 2100 band ?

**Frosty Vibe** · 05-21-2012, 10:34 PM

Hello, I am wondering if the Telus version of the One S supports 2100 band? According to Bell website their version supports 850 1900 2100 but I can't seem to find anything on the Telus version

I understand the Canadian version is different from the American T mobile version for lack of 1700 band but is there more than one version in Canada ?

Thank you.

**WorldIRC** · 05-21-2012, 10:48 PM

The Bell and Telus ones are identical. The 2100 band supported is for EU roaming.

**Frosty Vibe** · 05-21-2012, 11:29 PM

Thanks for the quick reply. So to be sure Telus HTC ONe S supports 850 1900 and 2100 only ?

I am going to order mine tomorrow.

Thanks again

**WorldIRC** · 05-22-2012, 07:42 AM

I'm not sure if those are the only bands supported; all I said is the two units will be identical.

Best to either identify the chipset used in the unit OR find the FCC ID and look it up on the FCC website.

**Frosty Vibe** · 05-22-2012, 09:36 PM

Bell an Telus websites have different information on the bands, I guess I will take a trip to the stores tomorrow to check out the boxes.

I would really like to have the 2100 band when I travel.

**WorldIRC** · 05-23-2012, 11:42 AM

^It's one and the same unit; the brands "market" differently depending on their goals.

**HC - NO "i"** · 05-23-2012, 12:30 PM

WorldIRC,

FCC and Industry Canada do not require the manufacturers to certify and file for the test results of the operating frequency not allocated or regulated here in North America. However, sometimes the test reports may show the reference of the other operating frequencies which a particular device also supports.

**Frosty Vibe** · 05-24-2012, 12:44 AM

Originally Posted by WorldIRC

^It's one and the same unit; the brands "market" differently depending on their goals.

I didn't make it to the telus store today but If the units are one and the same then I would think support for 2100 is available. Unless either one of the provider is engaged in false advertising or disabled a certain band

Bell supports 850 1900 2100 according to

http://www.bell.ca/Mobility/Products/HTC_One_S

Telus supports 850/1900/900/1800 according to

http://www.telusmobility.com/en/SK/h..._s/index.shtml

Oh well, I odered my One S yesterday so I will find out soon enough.

**IDEA_NXT** · 05-24-2012, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by Frosty Vibe

Telus supports 850/1900/900/1800 according to

http://www.telusmobility.com/en/SK/h..._s/index.shtml

Those numbers look to be GSM (2G) band values.

What about the box itself? Does the label mention anything? I know on the Surround and Wind's Radar 4G the bands are listed on the box.

**Frosty Vibe** · 05-25-2012, 11:36 PM

I went to a Telus store and no there was no mention of bands supported on the box either.

A sales at London Drugs even showed me an One X dummy phone when I asked about One S

I think I have a better chance finding the meaning of life than finding out whether One S will roam on HSPA in Europe.

**vintr** · 05-30-2012, 11:24 AM

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1673378

I emailed HTC Canada about this; My reply is in the thread.

Would really appreciate it if you could test out if it supports the AWS bands when it's unlocked if you/or a friend happen to have a Wind/Mobilicity micro sim

**HC - NO "i"** · 05-30-2012, 01:42 PM

vintr,

Greetings.

If you have read what I have posted here in HoFo and xda, you should HTC itself has not been accurate regrading the operating frequencies of One X. In its reply, we can tell HTC is being inaccurate again. Particularly it claims...

Bell: HSPA 42 Mbps 2100/1900/AWS GSM 850/900/1800/1900

Bell has NEITHER deployed its UMTS/HSPA+ network in the UMTS Band I (2100) NOR Band IV (AWS) in Canada, but rather Band II (1900) AND V (850). Bell has got its LTE network deployed in the LTE Band 4 (AWS) and Band 7 (2600) in some service market areas.

Having said that, HTC One S does have 4 different variants with different different operating UMTS bands certified by FCC and Industry Canada...

PJ40100: UMTS Band V (850)
PJ40110: UMTS Band II (1900)/IV (AWS)/V (850) <- This will be one probably more suitable for us here and abroad.
PJ40200: UMTS Band V (850)
PJ40210: UMTS Band II (1900)/V (850)

Now, I do not want to speculate on the operating bands elsewhere in the world because all the known information seems to be inconclusive from HTC and the carriers. FCC and Industry Canada do not require manufacturers to file the test results in the frequencies that not regulated or allocated here in North America. Whether any of the variants - especially the One S from TELUS (and T-Mobile USA) - is supporting UMTS Band I (2100) or not, I do not know.

But my point is that, we cannot always take the words from the customer service or marketing materials as accurate sometimes.

**vintr** · 05-30-2012, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by HC - NO "i"

vintr,

Greetings.

If you have read what I have posted here in HoFo and xda, you should HTC itself has not been accurate regrading the operating frequencies of One X. In its reply, we can tell HTC is being inaccurate again. Particularly it claims...

Bell has NEITHER deployed its UMTS/HSPA+ network in the UMTS Band I (2100) NOR Band IV (AWS) in Canada, but rather Band II (1900) AND V (850). Bell has got its LTE network deployed in the LTE Band 4 (AWS) and Band 7 in some service market areas.

Having said that, HTC One S does have 4 different variants with different different operating UMTS bands certified by FCC and Industry Canada...

PJ40100: UMTS Band V (850)
PJ40110: UMTS Band II (1900)/IV (AWS)/V (850) <- This will be one probably more suitable for us here and abroad.
PJ40200: UMTS Band V (850)
PJ40210: UMTS Band II (1900)/V (850)

Now, I do not want to speculate on the operating bands elsewhere in the world because all the known information seems to be inconclusive from HTC and the carriers. FCC and Industry Canada do not require manufacturers to file the test results in the frequencies that not regulated or allocated here in North America. Whether any of the variants - especially the One S from TELUS (and T-Mobile USA) - is supporting UMTS Band I (2100) or not, I do not know.

But my point is that, we cannot always take the words from the customer service or marketing materials as accurate sometimes.

Although this doesn't necessarily answer my/our question, it was really informative. Thanks a lot for the info! At least I know there are 4 variants now. Is there anyway to find out which variants each of the carriers in Canada sell though?

**HC - NO "i"** · 05-30-2012, 02:42 PM

vintr,

You are welcome.

The definitive way to find out is of course access to the relevant engineering / service manuals, product development personnel at HTC or using the signal generator / analyzer to simulate connections in the bands in question. I am not saying HTC is marketing all different variants here because other variants could be destined for other regions in the world. Just that if it has got one working on those regulated spectrum (including Bluetooth, WiFi, etc) the manufacturers are obligated to file for certification.

To find out which exactly the one we have got from our carriers, asking a dealer or point of sales to show you an actual unit. If you cannot find the references on the box, then ask them politely to take off the top cover of the handset. The model / FCC ID / Industry Canada certification numbers will be printed on the label near the headphones / headset jack...
http://cdn2.mos.techradar.com//art/m...12-580-100.JPG

e.g. PJ40110 / NM8PJ40110 / 4115B-PJ40110

**vintr** · 05-30-2012, 02:50 PM

Awesome that at least means I can either eliminate the Canadian models all together if I find out they don't support AWS and if they do I'm half way there in that I would need to find somebody with that model and a Wind/Mobilicity sim to see if further hacking needs to be done if the bands are "locked down" similar to the galaxy note. Thanks again!

PS. Sorry for taking over your thread OP