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    The forgotten rural areas still with 2G

    Drove with my nieces Tmo cell thru TX OK and KS.

    Never had more then edge in a huge area thru three states except near a large city where there was 3/4G. Even outside of NYC is edge.

    Do they plan to just let the rural areas remain in the dark ages of net speed?

    Don't quite get the whole idea of giving cities 4G while forsaking everywhere else.

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    hear you there even when i go to the city where i work they still have 2g and its one of the bigger city's hear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luther349 View Post
    hear you there even when i go to the city where i work they still have 2g and its one of the bigger city's hear.
    It's archaic and middle ages technology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gate115 View Post
    Don't quite get the whole idea of giving cities 4G while forsaking everywhere else.
    Wellllllllll, it costs a lot of money to put up cell towers for few people. And it is more cost effective to put them up where lots of people are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rfranzq View Post
    Wellllllllll, it costs a lot of money to put up cell towers for few people. And it is more cost effective to put them up where lots of people are.
    There ain't a few people in those areas and only the suits and huge stockholders should speak the way you just did. I don't give a rats *** about how much it costs them, I'm a consumer, ru??

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    Agreed. Which is why I recently left tmobile and got an iPhone on straight talk. GPRS in 2012 is completely unacceptable!
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    Quote Originally Posted by money69 View Post
    Agreed. Which is why I recently left tmobile and got an iPhone on straight talk. GPRS in 2012 is completely unacceptable!
    Exactly, I'm trying to get my niece off them too but again I think people like that guy above with that comment are ridiculous if they don't have stock in that company.

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    I also agree. Whenever I drive to upstate NY, there is 4G when you're just out of the city and then a couple of miles later, it switches to EDGE. You would think, that they would have the major interstates covered with 4G, but they don't.

    You drive, there is a ton of EDGE signal, then as you pass a bigger city, there is a small patch of 4G and then it's back to EDGE again and the process repeats.

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    Some of the rural areas have no cable and no DSL with only dial up and slow dial up do to the distance and the load of many phones pulling of one land line my thinking was
    To bring 4G to one person I know in the above situation. What a frustration to find that
    Edge was only available.

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    HSPA would be nice inbetween cities, but that wasn't going to happen with them deciding on whether or not to sell and to who. Furthermore, the CEO/CTO etc. have publicly stated that they need to up network quality and that's what they plan to do. Besides that, when I'm outside of Las Vegas on EDGE - Slacker Radio streams fine, web pages load and my maps load and the coverage matches Verizon and AT&T, I really don't care about much besides that. 180-220Kbps is what Verizon and Sprint pull down on 3G in Las Vegas in a lot of places and folks couldn't be more blissfully happy with their "3G" speeds

    T-Mobile definitely is not going to start up interstate HSPA when the AWS spectrum is slightly weaker than PCS(would cause worse service going from AWS and PCS when you drive further in between cell sites), and when it would require more investment in backhaul. It's not cheap and not preferable for a company that has a customer base that lives primarily in cities, not along interstates, and without the subscribers - who are they investing for again? It will have to happen if they want to see growth and to compete on quality, but it wasn't going to happen in 2010-2011 when they ultimately decided they were going to be acquired -- they've set themselves back by that not happening. However, to say that EDGE is completely horrendous and unusable (Along interstates that's far from the case, I'm usually the only one on the cell and my speeds do everything I need - I'm in no 4G rush, I'm driving for hours here..) in a reasonable amount of time. GPRS is another story, but i don't seem much of any of that around here
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    Quote Originally Posted by gate115 View Post
    There ain't a few people in those areas
    Are you suggesting rural areas have similar population densities to urban or even suburban ones?

    Quote Originally Posted by gate115 View Post
    and only the suits and huge stockholders should speak the way you just did.
    Or maybe a person who has studied economics or run a small business.

    Quote Originally Posted by gate115 View Post
    I don't give a rats *** about how much it costs them, I'm a consumer, ru??
    Translation: I want a pony.

    I assume this means you are willing to pay higher rates to subsidize high-speed mobile data for rural folk? How much extra are the non-rural folk willing to spend? $5/month? $10/month? $50/month? Or perhaps TMO should rent Barbara Eden to put on the Jeannie outfit, scrunch up her nose and go {boink} and the infrastructure will appear.

    I grew up on a farm so I am quite aware of how services in those areas trail the more populated areas. We made do; we didn't whine about only having 2G.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fratermus View Post
    I assume this means you are willing to pay higher rates to subsidize high-speed mobile data for rural folk? How much extra are the non-rural folk willing to spend? $5/month? $10/month? $50/month?
    Absolutely agree... You get what you pay for. If you want to pay for low cost service, that's exactly what you're going to get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fratermus View Post
    Are you suggesting rural areas have similar population densities to urban or even suburban ones?



    Or maybe a person who has studied economics or run a small business.



    Translation: I want a pony.

    I assume this means you are willing to pay higher rates to subsidize high-speed mobile data for rural folk? How much extra are the non-rural folk willing to spend? $5/month? $10/month? $50/month? Or perhaps TMO should rent Barbara Eden to put on the Jeannie outfit, scrunch up her nose and go {boink} and the infrastructure will appear.

    I grew up on a farm so I am quite aware of how services in those areas trail the more populated areas. We made do; we didn't whine about only having 2G.
    I don't know the combined total population of people in the the rural areas vs cities, but it's more then a few. Why don't you count them all and report back to us with your results?

    And you can also take your sarcastic tone and have Jeannie blink you into a mature human being.

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    With T-mobile I get 2g when leaving my home city on highways and some towns. With sprint(virgin mobile) it was the exact opposite, I'd get around 100kbps in city but towns and highways would have near 1mbps speed. It really depends on your area. I think they should spend more resources on expanding 3g to 2g areas than 4g. In everyday usage the difference between 1.5mbps and 5mbps is not as much as 100kbps and 1.5mbps. Who wants to stream hd video with caps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocke86 View Post
    With T-mobile I get 2g when leaving my home city on highways and some towns. With sprint(virgin mobile) it was the exact opposite, I'd get around 100kbps in city but towns and highways would have near 1mbps speed. It really depends on your area. I think they should spend more resources on expanding 3g to 2g areas than 4g. In everyday usage the difference between 1.5mbps and 5mbps is not as much as 100kbps and 1.5mbps. Who wants to stream hd video with caps?
    I agree, they should spend some on rural areas. In the locations we traveled thru.....VZW, ATT, even SPCS all have non archaic data speeds. I believe TMO is the only one who has blown off upgrading rural areas.
    Anyways, I got my niece a 3g VZW cell and put her on Page Plus. She's very happy with the speeds.

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