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Thread: $1400 BILL for ROAMING?! HELP!!

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    Would changing or deleting the APN settings not prevent data usage yet still allow voice, text and wi-fi to work when you roam internationally ?

    Anyone do this on a routine basis when traveling?

    I know disabling data roaming is supposed to work, however you could accidentally turn it back on, or some background app such as GPS might still access it, I know the odds are small but if it happens you could be looking at thousands of dollars of data roaming.

    Quote Originally Posted by Treatz View Post
    you don't have to take our your sim card, that's just silly

    I had no issues roaming all over italy getting SMS's back on the W810 in 2007. the Key here is KNOWING how to use your phone

    Leaving it turned on, with data roaming off, as is the default will result in $0.00 bill.

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    What an absolutely outrageous and almost criminal charge. It's amazing the the canadian cellular carriers are able to get away with things like this - charging innocent people $1400 for a service that probably cost them a few cents to provide.

    It's sickening, and why I loathe Rogers and work as hard as possible to screw them out of as much money as I can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by some-gei View Post
    What an absolutely outrageous and almost criminal charge. It's amazing the the canadian cellular carriers are able to get away with things like this - charging innocent people $1400 for a service that probably cost them a few cents to provide.

    It's sickening, and why I loathe Rogers and work as hard as possible to screw them out of as much money as I can.
    the OP knew the rules when they signed up i wouldn't say innocent people. it may only cost rogers cents but they are a business they are there to make money so they can charge whatever. i feel bad for the OP but it's there own fault.

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    for a person like myself that travels alot .......disabling data roaming is your BEST bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by habs_fan View Post
    the OP knew the rules when they signed up i wouldn't say innocent people. it may only cost rogers cents but they are a business they are there to make money so they can charge whatever. i feel bad for the OP but it's there own fault.
    Agree; Rogers is free to charge whatever they want as long as they do so legally. Someone find me a law stating a company can't charge "too much" that would force Rogers to reduce these charges...doubt you'll find it.

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    ^ Isn't that new policy about cancellations, essentially based on the premise that providers can't charge absurd rates? That's essentially a law saying they can't charge 'too much'. Just have to now extend the umbrella from only cancellation penalties, to overage rates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bubble.tea View Post
    ^ Isn't that new policy about cancellations, essentially based on the premise that providers can't charge absurd rates? That's essentially a law saying they can't charge 'too much'. Just have to now extend the umbrella from only cancellation penalties, to overage rates.
    There is nothing stopping from the carriers raising the MSRP of the devices so that the perceived subsidy is larger; thus increasing cancellation fees.

    As for roaming / overage rates; if the Canadian Telcos can argue that their practice is in line with the rest of the world, I'd be hard pressed to see any positive changes come

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    Quote Originally Posted by WorldIRC View Post
    ^The prices are in line with the INTERNATIONAL standard with regards to roaming. The EU have it no better when roaming here.
    Doesn't make it right. The prices are almost...criminal, given that a person can actually literally become bankrupt for something that costs, basically, nada. Just imagine having to explain to a customer, perhaps a poor student or a retired grandparent with little understanding of the technology, how much her $15,000 worth of services actually costs to provide. Perhaps twenty bucks?

    Also, it's set up to dinge you. Try taking a hundred grand out of your bank one day at random: you'll probably get some resistance. A reasonable person would not want to rack up 14K worth of data charges, so carriers shouldn't let them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DataDude View Post
    A reasonable person would not want to rack up 14K worth of data charges, so carriers shouldn't let them.
    OK, just say it, you want a granny-state.

    And it doesn't cost "nada", the roaming network passes charges back to the home network provider. What they are is all subject to negotiations between the carriers but they aren't nil.

    Playing up the scope of the problem doesn't help your case it only exposes the lack of personal responsibility and willful ignorance rampant in our society.

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    It costs almost nothing to provide a GB or so of data, and I'm sorry if you don't agree: it's just a fact. Yes of course charges are passed on to your home carrier, but it's just an arbitrary figure that carriers came up with that dates all the way back to the beginnings of data services.

    It's not my job to convince you and I'm not even going to bother trying. The reality is that people are literally becoming bankrupt for something that costs basically nothing. If you don't think that's wrong and you think there should be no safety net at all, then that's your perspective: I don't personally share it, but I appreciate that we all have our own opinions.

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    I don't take my phone with me, except for day trips to the US, when I leave Canada. Even with a number of data cutting options, I just don't want to find myself in a similar situation to the OP. I have a regular unlocked phone and normally purchase a prepaid line from the area I'm in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by some-gei View Post
    What an absolutely outrageous and almost criminal charge. It's amazing the the canadian cellular carriers are able to get away with things like this - charging innocent people $1400 for a service that probably cost them a few cents to provide.

    It's sickening, and why I loathe Rogers and work as hard as possible to screw them out of as much money as I can.
    LULZ. No one forced the customer to buy a phone, choose a provider, take the phone overseas etc.. nothing outrageous or almost criminal about this.

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    This is one of the biggest problems Canadians face everyday. Anyone can charge whatever they want no matter how little something costs. I have seen a 2Litre of Coke being sold for $4.29, and there is no law that prevents these robbers to stop charging these insane prices.

    It is unfortunate, but the government does the same with our hard earned money that we pay our taxes with. If u are ever lucky to get a contract from the government, u will become very rich within no time. Why I say this is because when Government pay for a service, they offer or get charged exuberant amounts and are happily willing to pay for it. Sometimes they even pay more than 10X the market value for the service. Thats why everything in this country is so inflated. The government itself encourages these policies.

    The insurance companies, dental institutions, health system, they are all inter related in so many ways. Does it really cost $125 for cleaning my teeth, but guess what if u have to, u'll pay for it or force urself to get dental insurance. Its pathetic how our system works.

    The other day I had a conversation about our Employment insurance policies, and how people are getting ripped off, and here we go again......they have reformed the insurance but really how about increasing premiums, and maybe increase the hrs one has to put in for claiming insurance. Our welfare system is so screwed, that they expect someone on welfare to live off just under $700, last time I checked the Welfare was around $576 10yrs ago, I don't know how much it is now. But yet we have billions of institutions that promote charity for other countries, and our government sends billions of $$$ to third world countries where the leaders put this money into their pockets and become millionaires. Our food banks are always in need of stuff, yet we don't have enough funds to support it.

    In such a rich country as ours, there shudn't be a single person living on the street or poverty.......I know this might be abit off topic but all of this relates to each other in many ways. Our system has to bring about alot of change where the Canadians benefits, not others. Its our country yet half of the Canadians can't afford housing in our own land.

    Isn't this what government is all about, but yet in this country anyone can charge whatever they want......and who pays for this....the Canadians do. Have everyone come in here, take our jobs away, and give them the same rights as anyone, take our lands away, as well as give them all the freedom as they want. Guess what, put ur foot into a different country, and see how much rights are being given. In other countries u can't even get rights even if u're there more than 40yrs.........in some countries its a sin to practice ur culture, but here we have everything for everyone......but yet I see so many foreigners who come here, make full use of the benefits that a Canadian has, and after they get their citizenships they're out of here. Seriously and yet we Canadians who have been paying taxes for the last 20+yrs get the run around.........

    I hope again, I haven't offended anyone......for how hard every Canadian works and how much we pay in taxes....there shud be no one in the streets, and everyone shud be able to earn a decent living....but yet our minimum wage is $10.75..............and what goes into our pockets is mere peanuts.

    Why the heck shud a customer be charged $1400 for a bill..........but its justified because our own government get away with it and does it.....everyday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theplayground View Post
    This is one of the biggest problems Canadians face everyday. Anyone can charge whatever they want no matter how little something costs.
    It's called capitalism. You can own part of Rogers or Bell, if you become a shareholder by buying their stocks. This way, you get to share that profit. In this case, part of that roaming charge would go to your pocket.

    It's basic economy, about supply and demand. What is wrong with that? Gold is rare so it is expensive. People buy it without any use for it. It is the same thing with our products and services. Only communists want to interfere with free economy. So if you can sell your skill for $1000/hour instead of $10/hour, that is because you are worth it. Someone is willing to pay for it. It's as simple as that.

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    I really hope theplayground was joking or trolling... Society mandated pricing is an utterly ridiculous idea.

    This thread is absurd... I bet the op knew exactly what he was doing - or they are just trolling and didn't rack up any charges at all.

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