AT&T covers 2000 more towns & cites with 4G than Verizon

[fraydog]

They could have done it by the end of. 2010... And surely everything could be enhanced backhaul. They have run out of excuses.

I don't see anyone making excuses here. Hell I'm telling people to start filing complaints with the BBB. I'd hardly say that's making excuses.

Telstra and Bell/Telus were what removed the excuses from the room. Rogers even went HSPA+ over their footprint.

That said, they have made leaps and bounds progress over 2-3 years ago. Overall I'd say there's more reasons for optimism than before.

[Wireless Junkie]

I don't see anyone making excuses here. Hell I'm telling people to start filing complaints with the BBB. I'd hardly say that's making excuses.

Telstra and Bell/Telus were what removed the excuses from the room. Rogers even went HSPA+ over their footprint.

That said, they have made leaps and bounds progress over 2-3 years ago. Overall I'd say there's more reasons for optimism than before.

Nobody on here is making excuses, but I am saying AT&T really has no excuses not to be 100% HSPA+ by now.

[fraydog]

Nobody on here is making excuses, but I am saying AT&T really has no excuses not to be 100% HSPA+ by now.

I'm surprised there isn't more calling out of AT&T not finishing this up in the tech media. I was in the Verge chat room on Turntable and I made light of Southern Illinois' coverage plight with AT&T, and the writers in there weren't surprised.

It's not like Stephenson isn't spending boatloads of money, he's just spending it all on the cities.

[ggore]

Where is this area you speak of?

Attachment 81620

Part of the area highlighted in green now has LTE available thanks to Verizon's partner in the LTE in Rural America program, so there's hope in those areas, albeit not from AT&T.

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Attachment 81628 (Gold is LTE)

[Squid7085]

I figured that AT&T would eventually make an ad on their '4G' coverage, claiming they have the most 4G coverage in the US only because they consider HSPA+ to be 4G (& T-Mobile claiming fastest 4G due to the 42 Mbps HSPA+ in some places). Verizon better start thinking of how to convince people of the differences between LTE & HSPA+ & (most importantly) why they should choose LTE if the speeds don't improve by another order of magnitude over HSPA+. Is overall national coverage all that Verizon has? Sure that's good but if AT&T & Verizon had the same level of coverage, what advantages remain?

I don't think it will matter, I honestly believe Verizon will have it's network, plus all their Rural Partners completely upgraded to LTE before AT&T even sniffs a complete "upgrade" to even 3G, let alone "4G." I would love to be proven wrong, but AT&T's history doesn't exactly back them up.

[ggore]

I don't think it will matter, I honestly believe Verizon will have it's network, plus all their Rural Partners completely upgraded to LTE before AT&T even sniffs a complete "upgrade" to even 3G, let alone "4G." I would love to be proven wrong, but AT&T's history doesn't exactly back them up.

Put Verizon's LTE together with Pioneer's first-phase LTE launch, and they are almost equal to AT&T's 3G area in Oklahoma. They should overtake them in the next round easily since AT&T isn't upgrading or expanding anything.