WINDmobile going downhill from now on

**Humza** · 06-10-2012, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by tendenzi

okay... again, trying to assume something of what I am and not knowing anything about me.

See PM.

**Tendenzi** · 06-10-2012, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by Humza

See PM.

I did can you keep it there for an hour until we figure this out?

**Humza** · 06-10-2012, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by tendenzi

I did can you keep it there for an hour until we figure this out?

Alrighty.

**JustinCredible** · 06-10-2012, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by nuclearbroccoli

The terms were different. The 2010 plan simply stated that the plan was valid as long as the account was in good standing.
The 2011 has this detail attached: " 8. WIND reserves the right to terminate this promotional plan at any time"

Not that I expect them to revoke it, but still...

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Same wording was on the original HMP, and on EVERY promotional plan ever offered.

WIND reserves the right to terminate this promotional plan at any time simply means they have a right to pull the plan from public offer. For example, they stated "This plan is available between these specific dates". But, they reserve the right to change their mind and stop offering it before any such published dates if they want to. It has absolutely nothing to do with grandfathering or KEEPING the plan if you already have it activated.

I worked for Wind during both the HMP offerings, both had the same details in the fine print. So did AITF plans, WinterWonder plan, Unstoppable plan, Irresistible plan, and all the rest.

Cheers.

**ArjunG** · 06-10-2012, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by Deafmented

You gave up chasing girls?

Haha!! Good one!

No I didn't switch teams or anything lol, but I settled for this one girl and don't need to chase as many as I can like I used to.

**canadiancow** · 06-10-2012, 09:12 PM

Originally Posted by ArjunG

Haha!! Good one!

No I didn't switch teams or anything lol, but I settled for this one girl and don't need to chase as many as I can like I used to.

I think that still counts as giving up the chase

**torontocolin** · 06-10-2012, 11:57 PM

Originally Posted by tendenzi

I've been here since it opened day one on HoFo.

Your join date says otherwise.

**Humza** · 06-11-2012, 07:03 AM

Originally Posted by torontocolin

Your join date says otherwise.

I think TZ means ever since they opened up the WIND Mobile sub-forum.
@TZ,

Please clarify.

**nuclearbroccoli** · 06-11-2012, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by JustinCredible

Same wording was on the original HMP, and on EVERY promotional plan ever offered.

WIND reserves the right to terminate this promotional plan at any time simply means they have a right to pull the plan from public offer. For example, they stated "This plan is available between these specific dates". But, they reserve the right to change their mind and stop offering it before any such published dates if they want to. It has absolutely nothing to do with grandfathering or KEEPING the plan if you already have it activated.

I worked for Wind during both the HMP offerings, both had the same details in the fine print. So did AITF plans, WinterWonder plan, Unstoppable plan, Irresistible plan, and all the rest.

Cheers.

Regardless of the intention, the terms can be interpreted in more than one way.
The original HMP official terms and conditions did not contain the phase mentioning that it can be terminated at any time. It simply mentioned that it was good as long as the account was in good standing.
However, the official TOS for the 2011 HMP mentions that it can be terminated at any time, but does not specifically refer to the offer date, which means that legally it could be interpreted as referring to the plan itself.
Poorly written TOS most likely, but....

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**Humza** · 06-11-2012, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by nuclearbroccoli

Regardless of the intention, the terms can be interpreted in more than one way.
The original HMP official terms and conditions did not contain the phase mentioning that it can be terminated at any time. It simply mentioned that it was good as long as the account was in good standing.
However, the official TOS for the 2011 HMP mentions that it can be terminated at any time, but does not specifically refer to the offer date, which means that legally it could be interpreted as referring to the plan itself.
Poorly written TOS most likely, but....

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I must agree, that is exactly what I thought about, but I guess I forgot to post earlier on.

**JustinCredible** · 06-11-2012, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by nuclearbroccoli

Regardless of the intention, the terms can be interpreted in more than one way.
The original HMP official terms and conditions did not contain the phase mentioning that it can be terminated at any time. It simply mentioned that it was good as long as the account was in good standing.
However, the official TOS for the 2011 HMP mentions that it can be terminated at any time, but does not specifically refer to the offer date, which means that legally it could be interpreted as referring to the plan itself.
Poorly written TOS most likely, but....

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Actually my friend, it did. I was there for all offer periods, got the bulletins and memos, and brochures. The disclaimer that Wind can revoke the offer at any time was there, and again, this only means they can revoke the offer for sale at any time, regardless of the stated "end date" of the promotion. Same with all AITF plans, in case they wanted to cut the offer period short. This never had anything to do with keeping a plan, just the period when it could be activated.

**Humza** · 06-11-2012, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by JustinCredible

Actually my friend, it did. I was there for all offer periods, got the bulletins and memos, and brochures. The disclaimer that Wind can revoke the offer at any time was there, and again, this only means they can revoke the offer for sale at any time, regardless of the stated "end date" of the promotion. Same with all AITF plans, in case they wanted to cut the offer period short. This never had anything to do with keeping a plan, just the period when it could be activated.

It doesn't matter with what they thought at the time what that line meant. It can be interpreted in two ways. One way is how NB interpreted it, the other way as you are stating. Bad wording = various interpretations.

**nuclearbroccoli** · 06-11-2012, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by JustinCredible

Actually my friend, it did. I was there for all offer periods, got the bulletins and memos, and brochures. The disclaimer that Wind can revoke the offer at any time was there, and again, this only means they can revoke the offer for sale at any time, regardless of the stated "end date" of the promotion. Same with all AITF plans, in case they wanted to cut the offer period short. This never had anything to do with keeping a plan, just the period when it could be activated.

I believe you when you say that's what the bulletins you received stated. However, I'm only referring to what was available for the customer to read. The terms made available to the customer are the terms that are legally binding, not internal bulletins.

Like I said before, I'm not really concerned about it, but it would seem that Wind does have a loophole if they chose to exploit it.

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**rodtaylor** · 06-11-2012, 06:46 PM

Wind doesn't have long-term contracts.

Any and all plans can be removed at your next bill.

It's not likely they would do that if you are a good customer (giving Wind a profit); but they can adjust your plan just as easily as you can cancel the service.

**OCZ** · 06-11-2012, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by rodtaylor

Wind doesn't have long-term contracts.

Any and all plans can be removed at your next bill.

It's not likely they would do that if you are a good customer (giving Wind a profit); but they can adjust your plan just as easily as you can cancel the service.

they might do this to current csx on the WIND 25/40 plans but honestly if they start touching HMP and all those sweet plans everyone will just pull the plug and leave ...