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    Quote Originally Posted by moto94536 View Post
    hi aneftp you explained about 700 min with 5 lines.. 4 smartphone and 1 feature.

    current plan cost $250 plus tax

    New plans:
    4 smartphone x $40, 1 feature x $30. 8 gb cost $90. It will cost $280 plus tax. lets say 4 gb share data. you are still paying $260.

    so you pay $30 more every month. but get unlimited talk.. nobody talk much on the phones these days when they are driving...

    so this plan is not good for the customers.
    Well, I am still going with the $250/month calculations.

    Because OP would be opening the 5th line as a "ghost" line ($70(2 lines) plus 3 extra lines for total of $100 for 700 voice minutes. Plus $30 for text plus $90 (3 lines/2GB data) plus $30 for his keeping his unlimited plus zero for 'ghost line/feature phone.

    My calculations were based on 4 lines (4 smartphones) with Verizon's new shared data. There is no need to add the 5th "feature phone $30 add a line" in my calculations. So the $250/month with 8GB shared data with 4 smartphone still applies. (he doesn't need the 5th line with going with shared data)

    So the difference is zero between what he is trying to do vs trying to keep things simple and not add a ghost line he doesn't even use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cares View Post
    Because everybody frequents the same forums
    Maybe. But if that's the case wouldn't have posting it on one forum been enough? Not like the answers would have been any different since what you posted most people already know about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cares View Post
    I just thought of this.

    I'm on a 4 person family plan all with unlimited data. The 3 other people are willing to give up unlimited but I'm not. I'm willing to pay full price for my phone but I figured out a way to get it for cheaper.

    Open a 5th line for $9.99 per month. Use this line's upgrade every 20 months. Swap the upgraded phone with a spare feature phone.

    $9.99 x 20 (cost to maintain 5th line) = $200
    $250 (subsidized phone after taxes)
    = $450

    Paying $450 vs $650 for full retail would be a $200 savings. Better than nothing right?
    If they're staggered conveniently, you could also use one of their upgrades and give them your old phone. If you do a hand-me-down thing and give them your old top-of-the-line phones, you could actually do pretty well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cares View Post
    I just thought of this.

    I'm on a 4 person family plan all with unlimited data. The 3 other people are willing to give up unlimited but I'm not. I'm willing to pay full price for my phone but I figured out a way to get it for cheaper.

    Open a 5th line for $9.99 per month. Use this line's upgrade every 20 months. Swap the upgraded phone with a spare feature phone.

    $9.99 x 20 (cost to maintain 5th line) = $200
    $250 (subsidized phone after taxes)
    = $450

    Paying $450 vs $650 for full retail would be a $200 savings. Better than nothing right?
    It wouldn't be $9.99, would it? It would be $9.99 for the line and $30 for the data on that line. $40 a month x 20 would be $800.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDubTrey View Post
    It wouldn't be $9.99, would it? It would be $9.99 for the line and $30 for the data on that line. $40 a month x 20 would be $800.
    There is no data plan since it is a dumbphone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by t6821hn View Post
    There is no data plan since it is a dumbphone.
    The post mentioned

    Paying $450 vs $650 for full retail would be a $200 savings. Better than nothing right?
    What feature phone costs $650?

    Even if the line was ostensibly opened for use with a feature phone, you'd have to commit to a data plan to get a smart phone upgrade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDubTrey View Post
    The post mentioned



    What feature phone costs $650?

    Even if the line was ostensibly opened for use with a feature phone, you'd have to commit to a data plan to get a smart phone upgrade.
    Wrong. The data plan is not part of the contract. All you do is activate the smartphone, and then switch back to the dumb phone. You would be charged for 1 day of prorated data. You then activate the smartphone on another line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDubTrey View Post
    The post mentioned



    What feature phone costs $650?

    Even if the line was ostensibly opened for use with a feature phone, you'd have to commit to a data plan to get a smart phone upgrade.
    The whole point of the loophole is that you buy a smartphone subsidized, so buy a $650 phone for $250, and then remove it from the line and put a dumbphone on the line in its place. Doing this allows you to drop data and only pay the $9.99/month line cost. Hence why it is a loophole as it is cheaper than the full retail price. Data is not tied to your contract. It is not required to be kept even if you buy a smartphone at a subsidized price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ben7337 View Post
    The whole point of the loophole is that you buy a smartphone subsidized, so buy a $650 phone for $250, and then remove it from the line and put a dumbphone on the line in its place. Doing this allows you to drop data and only pay the $9.99/month line cost. Hence why it is a loophole as it is cheaper than the full retail price. Data is not tied to your contract. It is not required to be kept even if you buy a smartphone at a subsidized price.
    The OP's method works fine. The break even point old vs new plans I have calculated is 8GB on family data share.

    So as we have stated multiple times in other threads. For some heavy data users it may be worth it to try other methods in order to maintain unlimited data. This adding a line and keeping it as a spare line works as long as the OP only has 4 family members. If they have a fifth family member than Verizon won't let them add a sixth line with the old plans.

    The new plans allow 10 connected devices.

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    Or if you know an old person who needs a basic cell phone for emergencies or something...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtludwig View Post
    Wrong. The data plan is not part of the contract. All you do is activate the smartphone, and then switch back to the dumb phone. You would be charged for 1 day of prorated data. You then activate the smartphone on another line.
    Ok, that is a big loophole.

    For some reason I think AT&T commits the line to getting data, but I could be wrong about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDubTrey View Post
    Ok, that is a big loophole.

    For some reason I think AT&T commits the line to getting data, but I could be wrong about that.
    They definitely DO NOT. I even walked into the store and used my dad's upgrade to get the iPhone 4S.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDubTrey View Post
    Ok, that is a big loophole.

    For some reason I think AT&T commits the line to getting data, but I could be wrong about that.
    This goes to what I've been talking about today in other threads...people who don't know what they're talking about spreading outright wrong info and stating it as a FACT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whitetigergrowl View Post
    Maybe. But if that's the case wouldn't have posting it on one forum been enough? Not like the answers would have been any different since what you posted most people already know about.

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    Once the new plans go into effect won't the upgrade on the 5th line automatically require a change to the entire family plan? Presumably there won't be any data on the line and you would be upgrading to a smart phone on that line then switching back to a dumb phone. The subsidy would require the entire account to switch to the new plan. I don't see this as a viable alternative anymore...


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