Samsung Galaxy Note II Pre-Release Thread

[Steveanderson13]

Vzw's arrogance has got to be hitting the bottom line.

This is your conclusion from the following unsupported conclusions?

It passed on the HTC One series presumably over bootloader issues.

I think none of us have any inside info on purchasing agreements. Do you? You do know an agreement to purchase the Incredible must have preceded the One?

Deferred arbitrarily the GNex launch merely to boost RAZR sales

Deferred? Seems to me it was rushed to make it before Christmas. Any evidence?

and stuck its neck out of the crowd to lock up the SGSIII thus alienating the development community.

Certainly sticks it neck out. You are aware of the unlocked version. It seems the devs lean towsrd GSM.

The GNote wasn't good enough?

Rhetorical, I presume. I would like to have it, too, which is why I am on this thread.

The RAZRs sell moderately well due to hype and the lack of quality alternatives.

You do know one analyst said it was the top seller. You know the appeal of the battery life. The iphone is a quality alternative among others.

But it looks like the RAZR HD will be less than spectacular at launch.

Probably so, being overshadowed by the S3 and Moto screwing up in general for a good while.

And all this while restructuring its plans upward, adding fees, dropping incentives, and deleting features.

True and you are familiar with market saturation which presses prices upward. And you should compare to AT&T.

Insufferable arrogance.

It is escapable.

[ronaldheld]

http://m.engadget.com/2012/07/24/qua...eng_latest_art
Our CPU?

[TC_Mits]

@Steve -
I stand by my post, and except to note that you should know the story behind the GNex delays, I will also let your challenge stand. We could fill a few pages going back and forth with this stuff, but it just doesn't seem worth it to me.

For a bit of levity from the time in question:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=umrKjcriAps

www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZMGiiQr46Q

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[TC_Mits]

Our CPU?

Wherever it's headed, just please tell me it has integrated US LTE.

Also, I would 'Note' that we should not forget the1080p HTC phablet hovering over this thread waiting to pounce.


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[ronaldheld]

[QUOTE=TC_Mits;14874892]Wherever it's headed, just please tell me it has integrated LTE.

Is that what was done on the S4?

[TC_Mits]

As I recall the quad-core S4 in the international i9300 SGSIII did not have integrated LTE. The US -- oops, I mean NA -- SGSIII versions are dual core with gen2 LTE. I believe there was slso a Korea-only LTE quad-core SGSIII version, but the LTE chip was a gen1 add-on.


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[ronaldheld]

I thought that I read that we might be getting an overclocked CPU in the SGIII, but I believe it is the quad core CPU version.

[Steveanderson13]

@Steve -
I stand by my post,

With no legs. You CONSTANTLY DEMAND from others proof, evidence, links, whatever, for any statement given yet NEVER do the same yourself; but you have no qualms of offering negative, disparaging, unsupported conclusions. Do yourself what you expect from others.

[jasaero]

The international SIII has an ARM A9 quad core exynos done by Samsung, NOT a quad core S4 Qualcomm as you are seeing in the link. And as far as a know there is no integrated single chip quadcore S4 with CDMA 3G/LTE baseband, but it is compatible with the MDM9615 28nm independent baseband that would accomplish all this sorta connectivity. That is expected to be the same baseband that Apple plans to use on the iPhone 5 though,j so availability of supply for that particular chip could be limited. Supply could be fine for something like the Note II though that probably will be successful, but not in iPhone or Galaxy SIII sorta way.

I tend to expect Note II to use SIII derived internals really though. If it gets any upgrade I would guess it to be more an S4 Pro dual core sorta thing with only the Adreno 320 graphics being added rather than that and two more cores.

[TC_Mits]

Steve, as an opinion solely, I think you're overstating your case. But if it affords you any satisfaction, please be my guest and allow yourself the pleasure of having won. This just is not now the right venue for the extended exchange that would ensue if I fully address all the issues you raise.


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[ronaldheld]

The international SIII has an ARM A9 quad core exynos done by Samsung, NOT a quad core S4 Qualcomm as you are seeing in the link. And as far as a know there is no integrated single chip quadcore S4 with CDMA 3G/LTE baseband, but it is compatible with the MDM9615 28nm independent baseband that would accomplish all this sorta connectivity. That is expected to be the same baseband that Apple plans to use on the iPhone 5 though,j so availability of supply for that particular chip could be limited. Supply could be fine for something like the Note II though that probably will be successful, but not in iPhone or Galaxy SIII sorta way.

I tend to expect Note II to use SIII derived internals really though. If it gets any upgrade I would guess it to be more an S4 Pro dual core sorta thing with only the Adreno 320 graphics being added rather than that and two more cores.

It would be nice to have the quad core, but I expect only an S4.

[TC_Mits]

Thanks, Jasaero, for straightening that out -- not my fortè. So the combination of a quad-core S4 APQ8064 with the 'baseband' MDM9615 will give, I'm sure, very impressive performance. What will be the impact of the separate baseband chip on battery consumption versus an integrated baseband?


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[Steveanderson13]

But if it affords you any satisfaction, please be my guest and allow yourself the pleasure of having won.

No satisfaction at all; as you are looking at it from a perspective of "winning", you are missing the point.

[Steveanderson13]

Y'all will want to read and weep:

http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/7/24...s4-pro-APQ8064

[jasaero]

Thanks, Jasaero, for straightening that out -- not my fortè. So the combination of a quad-core S4 APQ8064 with the 'baseband' MDM9615 will give, I'm sure, very impressive performance. What will be the impact of the separate baseband chip on battery consumption versus an integrated baseband?


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Not sure the separate chips would create much more power consumption so much as inferior packaging and more board space that couldn't be battery or something else. This is mostly because both chips are still 28nm. I'm sure there is some marginal power consumption increase, but don't think it would be of much significance so long as these two chips are still well integrated as I suspect they are. The biggest increase in power consumption would be due to the extra cores and bigger GPU of the Adreno 320. That can should be controllable also not greatly affect battery life unless doing something sorta extreme computationally.

I am sure it's less power efficient as a package, but doubt it's vastly different.