Samsung Galaxy Note II Pre-Release Thread

**jasaero** · 07-24-2012, 09:06 PM

Here are benchmarks out the wazoo, including comparisons to the imagination tech stuff some ARM peeps use and that Apple uses the highest end(most cores) versions of. It will dominate the android world, but is still a bit less GPU than Apple put in the iPad 3. Sorta a bit curious why Qualcomm doesn't offer anything as aggressive as what Apple is actually using from ImagTech.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6112/q...rmance-preview

**ronaldheld** · 07-25-2012, 05:43 AM

Too bad we cannot get one of those quad cores, as in that tablet on the previous page.

**TC_Mits** · 07-25-2012, 08:11 AM

So, Jasaero, any thoughts on when and in what this APQ8064 / Adreno320 combo with the 28 nm MDM9615 baseband might show up in a mainstream handset?

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**jasaero** · 07-25-2012, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by TC_Mits

So, Jasaero, any thoughts on when and in what this APQ8064 / Adreno320 combo with the 28 nm MDM9615 baseband might show up in a mainstream handset?

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Haven't a clue at this point. Probably before the end of the year is my best guess as Qualcomm has stated they think they are on track to have demand mostly satisfied by then or early next year. Word in the RAZR HD thread though has me figuring most stuff that was supposed to get this is getting delayed. If RAZR HD didn't get this and just has MSM8960 with later timeframe chip orders than stuff on shelves now, even this already available chip is in short enough supply to cause device delays. That would tend to suggest S4 Pro is even further out now. Not sure when the extra foundries are supposed to have S4 stuff being delivered, but would guess not long after that happens stuff like S4 Pro will have enough supply. Seemingly though will be pretty much holiday season before all that comes together. I suppose something not intended to be really high volume could hit earlier though. Would expect that to be something more like a tablet or something though as any premium handset is going to sell pretty big since no one seems willing to make a unique low volume high margin intended device with physical qwerty and massive size for people like me. Hah.

**ronaldheld** · 07-25-2012, 09:17 AM

So the next IPhone will beat out the HD, Note II, and HTC Note due to supply problems?

**jasaero** · 07-25-2012, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by ronaldheld

So the next IPhone will beat out the HD, Note II, and HTC Note due to supply problems?

It will use the MDM9615 from Qualcomm also, along with the Apple processor. So not for sure. This supply problem will be hitting the iPhone 5 also because of this. Basically Qualcomm is the shiznit everyone is after at the moment.

**ronaldheld** · 07-25-2012, 10:05 AM

Unfortunately when this phone is announced, I expect only the International version will be speced. I wonder if a manufacturer has a priority with Qualcomm?

**TC_Mits** · 07-25-2012, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by jasaero

... no one seems willing to make a unique low volume high margin intended device with physical qwerty and massive size for people like me. Hah.

You mean, 'like us'. The Nexus slider from the patent drawing would be a perfect fit in mid-Q4.

This should increase the demand -- if not the price -- for my nib blue 32 SGSIII -- or, am I gonna hafta use it?

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**ronaldheld** · 07-25-2012, 12:48 PM

Will the Verizon specs on this phone be better than the HTC Note?

**TC_Mits** · 07-25-2012, 02:38 PM

All pure speculation for now:

http://www.google.com/patents/US4449024

. http://www.uberphones.com/2012/04/go...us-smartphone/

.http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/05/goo...irthday-rumor/

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**jasaero** · 07-25-2012, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by TC_Mits

All pure speculation for now:

http://www.google.com/patents/US4449024

. http://www.uberphones.com/2012/04/go...us-smartphone/

.http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/05/goo...irthday-rumor/

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Oh I have a bit of hope left also TC! Just not gonna bet on it or count on it or anything. Have more confidence a Note sized screen device will eventually happen on VZW. No clue if HTC or Samsung or LG or who will get their first though.

No clue when a Droid 5 would happen, but my generally feeling is the later the better and that it's a very revolutionary change for the device that is developed and dreamed up slowly as a 100% premium device that leaves nothing to the highest grade RAZR of it's day. Only mention this because I have more confidence the D5 will be a truly premium physical qwerty device than something dreamed up by Google proper rather than Moto for whatever reason.

**ronaldheld** · 07-26-2012, 05:28 AM

No confidence that D5 will be anything special
Anyone have inputs as to who wins the biggest screen for second half of 2012?

**TC_Mits** · 07-26-2012, 07:28 AM

If the 5.5" spec-ulation holds, probably ths one, I'd think. I feel a 3" x 5.35" = 6" diag 1080p IDS display @16:9 AR could be an iconic statement, but not really expecting it any time soon.

I'm skeptical there will ever be a "Droid 5" by that name. But Moto will almost surely continue to make QWERTY sliders -- on rare and special occasions.

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**jasaero** · 07-26-2012, 07:38 AM

Originally Posted by TC_Mits

If the 5.5" spec-ulation holds, probably ths one, I'd think.

I'm skeptical there will ever be a "Droid 5" by that name. But Moto will almost surely continue to make QWERTY sliders -- on rare and special occasions.

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Unless there is a new Galaxy Tab 7.? or 8 or something. Think it is in trouble over some apple litigation over in Europe so they might be ready to replace it anyhow. It would never be a phone also here before, but that might change now that such a device is worth a lot more per month per device on shared data stuff than a Tab only device. And they will know such a device is getting sold to the sort that isn't going to do much to exploit unlimited voice and text that cause that higher charge so it's a lot better profit proposition than before when it might usually goto someone that would just use it to use more unlimited data they were already paying for.

Aspects like this of the shared data are good in a way even if you never opt for them. They make the business case for devices they would block or reconfigure A LOT better.

**TC_Mits** · 07-26-2012, 08:14 AM

Hmmm. . . Got me thinking --

A tablet ccum pocket computer with VoLTE or where telephony was clearly a secondary function /concern could reasonably be larger. The pocket-ability factor is much more a function of width than of height or depth and probably has a limit around 10-11cm or just over 4". In that niche -- which is, really, the natural evolution of the phablet -- a 4" x 7"+ = 8"+ 16:9 display might fit very comfortably -- in the purse or jeans back pocket.

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