The long life of Windows Phone 7.8?????

[jr3650sp]

I'm a windows phone fanboy but I'm living realistic ; When I carry my titan everyone praises its looks and that it can voice search better than most others but at night I broke out my old school 8320 to compare and it ha s features my Titan doesn't have now.In comparing what Microsoft plans and Microsoft does you know their history is rocky . I have faith we will get some great phones for our tier of ppl and they probably will win back the enterprise arena but for them to beat samsung or apple out of the park htc and nokia would have to provide a superior phone ; i now samsung makes phone for them to but an example compare an infuse,titan 1 or 2, and iphone 4 or 4s find your quality. You will see that no matter what happens with the os the phones have to catch up no windows phone right now could hold up to a galaxy s 2 right now and I luv my titan.

[Crav4Speed]

Crav4Speed
1. There are 3 iPads in the market, with each having multiple memory and connectivity variants for different price points.
2. If anything, Google has the brightest future, they are the only ones making a robust, free and extremely popular OS for mobiles that allows small OEMs from countries like even Nigeria to make their own smartphones and tablets. "The next billion" are in Africa, a continent where desktop internet penetration is low in most countries and will probably never develop, they are skipping computers and going on to tablets and smartphones, and Android is the only OS sold with affordable smartphones and tablets.

Android may not be big in tablets right now, but much like Android phones its going to grow rapidly.

1) Well, Porsche makes the Carrera, Carrera 4, Turbo, GT2, GT3 and other variants with different options and specs for different price points. They are all still Porsche 911's. All variations of iPads are still iPads.

2) Android tablets have been around at least for 2 years now. Rapid growth of Android tablets would have happened already if it was going to happen at all. iPad dominates now and with Win8 tablets coming, Android tablets have no where to go. Africa? well, I think when those governments stop fighting and creating civil wars and solve their famine and poverty issues and eradicate and prevent diseases like aids and malaria and spend money on books and education instead of guns and tanks, then we can start to talk about Android tablets. And I don't see that happening anytime soon.

The whole post is over the top.

However. The points you make about convergence are strong and valid. I am Android for open source and tier 1 hardware. But when a top tier LTE WP8+ x86 multi-core handset with a 5" HD display, SD, and 2GB of RAM *finally* arrives, I may well switch -- because that means legacy Windows apps. When WP can run natively Audacity, Nero, VLC -- name your favorites -- it will become the "ecosystem" to beat. Instantly.

Then Google will be forced to rewrite the Android kernel to run legacy Linux apps and find SoCs to make it work. True native MS Windows convergence could even pare the Apple down to size.

That makes no sense because that's not the point of a smartphone. You're not going to run photoshop or autocad or nero or other software that needs gigs of ram and powerful x86 processors on a device with a 5" screen and if you believe that day will ever come, you're only kidding yourself! That's why desktops/laptops in the home and workplace will never disappear (x86/x64) and if you need something mobile with enough power then you have ultraportables or tablets (x86/ARM) and truly mobile phones (ARM only)... but to think there will ever be x86 smartphones running photoshop on a 5" screen... that's crazy talk!

I own all three os (atrix,4s,and HTC Titan); Back and forth , on the fence, whatever the whole WP scenario is a work in progress . Owning a WP is a a hobby I will admit, the handling of the actual progression of the os is misguided, and to say it will be a contender with the iphone or android no it won't I admit that. The one thing that I say that sets my apart from being a basher of the other two os is this it is a better alternative than a blackberry. If someone wants to make a point the fight on the low tier is blackberry vs. windows phone thats the lower card on this bout .Android vs. Iphone is the top think about all the time you wasted here when thats the prize fight .
http://www.mobiletechreview.com/ubbt...p?Number=43124
Once you look at the numbers every android and iphone users will realize who posted in here that you just want to type. Any WP user or soon to be user their fight is with Blackberry. Plus after Sept. 12 you guys have to see if the Galaxy S3 will contend or be swept up in certain markets by the new Iphone.

While I agree WP is a work in progress, it is anything but a hobby. I manage to run my my whole life from personal finance to business contacts to personal and business emails and social media all from my WP!! WP may be fighting RIM for 3rd place now but with a corporation as big as Microsoft, I can bet you that they are gunning for 1st place. Look at xBox for example... it was first released in 2001... 11 years ago and is the best selling console on the market today. Do you really think Microsoft is going to sit by and accept 3rd?

Android marketshare is starting to show signs of slowing down and flattening out while iOS and WP are on the rise. It will only be a matter of time before iOS and WP are duking it out for 1st. Besides the 500,000 apps, Android will have nothing else to compete with the MS and Apple ecosystems in the future.

[jr3650sp]

I agree with you on the corporate end ; it will get steam because microsoft(windows) is intergrated everywhere. Accepting third will be the choice I feel microsoft will have to take until the hardware matches the software(but thats a guess that it may not much). The true emphasis I believe with windows 8 is building up the tablet end (Surface will contend with the Ipad right out the box.) having a smooth ui for all three form factors(pc,smartphone, and tablet) but at some point; one will edge the other .

[go0gle]

[Tsepz_GP]

Android marketshare is starting to show signs of slowing down and flattening out while iOS and WP are on the rise. It will only be a matter
of time before iOS and WP are duking it out for 1st. Besides the 500,000 apps, Android will have nothing else to compete with the MS and Apple ecosystems in the future.

Android marketshare has only slowed down in the US, have you not kept up with the stats from Gartner, IDC, Canalys and Nielsen? In Europe, Asia and Africa Android has not only continued to grow it has begun to dominate even pushing out Nokia's S40 devices. On the other hand, iOS has seen a slow down in passed year, especially in Europe, where more and more networks are deciding not to subsidise it.
WP has grown in the US, but globally its not done much.

EDIT:

While the Android versus Apple battle is heating up in the United States with the two platforms being close, worldwide Android extends its lead and continues dominating the smartphone market in in the second quarter of the year. The latest statistics by researchers Gartner show that Android captured 64.1% of the market, while iOS held 18.1%.

More here: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Andro...-share_id33271

Take off that reality distortion field.

[TC_Mits]

. . . That makes no sense because that's not the point of a smartphone. You're not going to run photoshop or autocad or nero or other software that needs gigs of ram and powerful x86 processors on a device with a 5" screen and if you believe that day will ever come, you're only kidding yourself! That's why desktops/laptops in the home and workplace will never disappear (x86/x64) and if you need something mobile with enough power then you have ultraportables or tablets (x86/ARM) and truly mobile phones (ARM only)... but to think there will ever be x86 smartphones running photoshop on a 5" screen... that's crazy talk! . . .

The "point of a smartphone" is changing rapidly -- the "phone" is just another feature now. The "pocket computer" is rising to primacy.

Photoshop is an obviously self-serving example. VLC, Audacity, even Nero for simple editing/ conversion are realistic. The SGSIII has 2GB of RAM -- plenty. [OK, so Nokia couldn't bear the thought . . . Lol.] But even for simpler stuff, like a favorite of mine is the Editpad text editor by JGSoft. Most folks have laptop apps they'd like to have on a handset. And a quad-core 2 GHz 2GB+ phone isn't that far off.

Your bias and 'prove my point at all costs' attitude is betrayed again here: "desktops/laptops in the home and workplace will never disappear." Where'd that come from? Of course "desktops/laptops ... will never disappear". Doesn't mean at all that people won't enjoy the ability to do the same things in the same way with the exact same apps on their pocket computers when they're away from "the home and workplace".

So, I stand by my "crazy talk".


Perspective instantiates reality.
[From DX by HoFo app.]

[BetterOfDead]

Hey how big is the windows 7.8 update? My Samsung focus flash keeps complaining for an update every time its syncs with Zune.
Sent from my SGH-i677 using Board Express