Reply With QuoteThe CDMA carrier purchased 4S requires to be jailbroken, the GSM carrier purchased 4S does not require to be jailbroken. At the moment all IOS(excluding IOS 6 beta) and baseband versions of the 4S can be unlocked with the Gevey Ultra S.
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I've climbed a cellphone tower
Could someone please explain how the Gevey Ultra would actually unlock my iPhone 4S? For example, can I only use it if I'm jailbroken, and/or if I'm already activated on the original locking carrier?
Here's what seems to be the official website of the company, with instructions.
http://www.applenberry.com/unlock-gs...s-without-sim/
But I'm a bit unclear about what they're referring to - for example, when they talk about "pop ups" coming up on your iPhone, how would that work? It's not as though SIM cards can just generate random popups on an iPhone, right?
Also, can all versions of iOS on the iPhone 4S and all basebands be unlocked?
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The CDMA carrier purchased 4S requires to be jailbroken, the GSM carrier purchased 4S does not require to be jailbroken. At the moment all IOS(excluding IOS 6 beta) and baseband versions of the 4S can be unlocked with the Gevey Ultra S.
I've climbed a cellphone tower
Great information - many thanks!
So just out of curiosity,
1) You noted that iOS 6 beta cannot be unlocked - does this mean that in fact Apple has tightened security so as to block Gevey solutions from working?
2) Can you give me some more details about these "popups" which the SIM card produces? How can this be possible if your phone is not jailbroken?
3) The website I listed is genuine, yes?
I've climbed a cellphone tower
Oh and one more thing - to what extent will your iPhone "think" that you're still on the original carrier? For example, do you not get the correct APN settings etc.?
I've climbed a cellphone tower
1) iOS 6 is not officially released, therefore a product cannot officially support it. Ask again when it actually comes out.Originally Posted by DataDude
2) You only get one "pop up" when you turn your phone on and its more like a confirmation screen. You will not get random popups on your phone.
3) Yes.
4) You will have to put in your own APN settings for the carrier you are trying to use.
Sit vis vobiscum.
I've climbed a cellphone tower
Well, I know you won't get "random popups", I just wondered how any popups at all could be displayed since SIMS generally can't put them up - it's not as though Gevey installs an app onto your phone or anything like that.
So if you have to put in your own APN settings (something you can't do for personal hotspot), then that means tethering won't work properly unless you jailbreak. Correct?
Phone Collector
here's my experience with a gevey ultra S, for the iphone 4s. i am on 5.0.1 with whatever baseband is standard for 5.0.1. it is jailbroken, but that has nothing to do with using the gevey.
i traveled to uganda a few weeks ago. i purchased a sim from MTN, one of the 3 major GSM providers in uganda. i bought both airtime minutes and data. i had the MTN store provision the sim for data.
i took out my att sim, and inserted the sim tray and adapter purchased from gevey, along with the MTN sim. i then rebooted my phone. upon restart, both voice and data worked flawlessly. i didn't have to enter any apn info--i assume when the sim was provisioned for data by mtn, the data apn info was somehow downloaded (altho, MMS didn't work, and there was no way for me add the necessary apn settings for MMS). also, native tethering worked fine. even tho my phone was jailbroken, i didn't need to use one of the tethering apps from cydia.
i purchased the gevey from amazon, and i paid somewhere around $25. however, i later learned that there is a cottage industry in counterfeit gevey sims, so if i had it to do over again, i would buy from the vendor you mentioned in your post.
my final piece of advice is to go online to tmobile's website and buy a "starter" prepaid sim before you travel. it costs a dollar or so, and only has 10 minutes of talk time loaded, but you will be able to ascertain that your gevey sim adapter is working before you travel. however, since the starter sim isn't provisioned for data, you won't be able to test that. however, in my experience, if it works for voice on a t-mob sim, it will work overseas for a sim that is provisioned for data.
good luck!
My screen is bigger than yours
Apart from the http://unlockit.co.nz APN profile creation tool, there is a sim swap/multitask method, a backup file edit method, and a use another iPhone's backup method to change APN settings on a Gevey unlocked phone without jailbreaking. As long as the carrier doesn't use separate APN settings for data and tether, just changing the data APN should suffice.
I've climbed a cellphone tower
Yeah, unfortunately that's not the case in my situation - all Canadian carriers except one of which I am aware, lock down the tethering settings. That's not to say I'm in favour of tethering unofficially. But it does mean that even if I bought a straight-up tethering plan, I wouldn't be able to tether; this is a real shame, but I had a feeling this was how Gevey would work. Thanks for the clarification.
I've climbed a cellphone tower
Brilliant - thanks for the detailed reply! Between all the posts in this thread I think I've more or less confirmed my suspicions, and pieced together how this thing works. It truly is a brilliant solution, but it's a shame that the technology doesn't allow for the proper carrier profile to be used.
My screen is bigger than yours
You don't get it, do you? The sim swap/multitask method allows full change of the APN settings, the backup methods do as well without jailbreak. Why not just jailbreak and use TetherMe or Commcenter patch to allow the changes you want?
I've climbed a cellphone tower
Absolutely, I'm here to learn! Would you be able to elaborate on any of these methods - say I have a Bell iPhone 4S (Bell doesn't allow you to modify the tethering APN). How would I modify it without a jailbreak, using any of the methods you described? I was researching this very thing a while ago and came up with nothing. For example, when I restored the backup from my Rogers iPhone 4 to my Bell iPhone 4S, the personal hotspot settings were automatically adjusted by Apple - you're saying you can modify them, backup and restore, and somehow have them preserved? This is also the case if I change them with TetherMe, backup, then restore - personal hotspot actually gets disabled until I do a network reset.
Yes absolutely, jailbreaking's always an option, but if you were absolutely going to rely on the hotspotting being working all the time it'd be good to know that it can be done without a jailbreak too.
Radiation is good
The suggestion to buy a T-Mobile prepaid starter sim is a good way to test for any unlock you may be experimenting with, however my experience is that it costs $6.99 on their website, inc. postage.
The sell the same sim card in the brick & mortar stores, but for $9.99. I did get a local TM store to pricematch the online sim, however a year later they would not do that, so I went the online route. It only takes a few days to arrive, and the sim works for several months after you activate it, even if you never add any service to the original 10 minutes air time that is included.
Phone Collector
http://find.t-mobile.com/controller?...=prepaid%20sim
looks like the "broadband" starter sim is $6.99 but the voice starter sim w/10 minutes loaded is $0.99. just to test an unlock i would think the 99cent sim would suffice.
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My screen is bigger than yours
All that research(doesn't show), and you still fail. How is it you did something wrong, yet all options are thrown out as ever being possible, because of you're incompetence? To sum it all up, I think there is a word for it...oh yeah, lazy.
Gevey Sim uses CarrierLabs 00101 Bundle, not your locked carrier's bundle.
Steps to take for each option
Another option to tether without jailbreak is Tether.com HTML5 workaround
Last edited by overdrive31; 06-24-2012 at 10:03 AM.
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