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    Window Phone 8

    Does anyone have any idea if USCC will get on board with Windows Phone 8?
    Is there any chance it will be in 2012 as these phones are supposed to be available later this year?
    I'm still not part of the smart phone world and from what I've researched it sounds like Windows Phones pretty much work right out of the box. (especially for a newbie) I'm not sure if that's the case for Android? (user friendly...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldog240 View Post
    (especially for a newbie) I'm not sure if that's the case for Android? (user friendly...)

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    Don't need to let any phone intimidate you. Any phone can be easy.

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    After the stunt Microsoft just pulled, I would be hesitant to consider a Windows phone. Their v8 software isn't backwards compatible with 7, so all apps designed for 7 just all become obsolete, companies like Nokia with a warehouse full of their Lumia 900's all just became darn near worthless, whats to say next year they don't pull the same stunt and then your new smart phone just became an antique with no future.

    No existing v7 phones can be upgraded to v8, period. v7.5 phones will only get upgraded to 7.8, they also won't get the full v8 benefit.

    For a first time smart phone owner, I would recommend Android, 99% of their apps work on multiple OS versions, same with iOS.

    Just my opinion, you are free to make your own choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billthycat View Post
    After the stunt Microsoft just pulled, I would be hesitant to consider a Windows phone. Their v8 software isn't backwards compatible with 7, so all apps designed for 7 just all become obsolete...

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    Not correct, that's not what backward compatibility means. All apps designed for WP7.x will be compatible with WP8, but not the other way around. In other words, old apps are fine, new apps may not run on older devices. Keep in mind that it's a matter of how developers code and compile their programs. In 7.x you have a limitation on technologies to be used, which appears to be lifted a bit in WP8. I think if a dev created an app or a game in silverlight/XNA/whatever and wants to target 7.x, it will be an option as well.

    Android and iOS do the same things; there is a concept of a version minimum.

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    The article I read specifically stated that it would not run v7 apps and v7 would not run v8 apps. Maybe the author was misinformed, it was published the day after their presentation.

    I understood it to be a whole new kernel so that the apps would be able to run on all v8 devices, tablets, etc. If this is the case, then I would tend to believe it won't run v7 apps.

    I may be wrong, I just read your link, it does say that they recently heard from Redmond about the backwards compatibility, maybe the article I read was posted before that.

    Most likely the same thing will happen that happened for v6, all developers pretty much stopped development for it as soon as v7 was released, so that phone became a paperweight. Most decent android developers try to develop apps that run on older Android, tho some features just can't be designed to run on both versions, and that is understandable.

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    There is always that threat, but the differences are less drastic in this case. Between 6.5 and WP7 (which was a complete rewrite) MS went away from using .NET or plain C++ to using .NET in Silverlight packaging. Same applied to games with their XNA framework. On the surface it's not a big difference, but it limited some features (direct hardware access, for example) and made life difficult for game developers and all others with even simplest apps. In WP8, from what I understand, one major feature is the ability to go back to code in something other than Silverlight and have more hardware access. This is my understanding, I don't really know how far it goes (C++ maybe?). So any app written in this fashion will not work on 7.x devices (presumably 7.8 by then). At the same time, developing in Silverlight is easier than C++, so I expect that simple apps will continue to be developed the same way. Fancier apps and games are likely to diverge.

    Tablets are a whole different story. Windows RT, essentially Windows 8 (not phone, desktop) that has been compiled to run on ARM (mobile) processors will NOT support most, if not all, current Windows apps (7, Vista, XP, and so on). They will all need to be recompiled to run on a MS tablet with Windows RT. UNLESS you buy one that runs on an Intel CPU with a full Windows 8. In either case, WP8 apps (phone) will likely not run on the tablet. You can always package Silverlight to run on a desktop, but it remains to be seen how easy it will be for developers.

    None of this answers the OP question, though. USCC likely will get a WP8 phone, it will be similar to whatever Sprint or Verizon get at first, so it remains to be seen. Since USCC does not have sufficient LTE coverage, none of the LTE/GSM devices (even from frequency-compatible carriers) are likely to appear on USCC. I hope you're not looking for anyone to guess how soon it will happen...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DuckKane View Post
    None of this answers the OP question, though. USCC likely will get a WP8 phone, it will be similar to whatever Sprint or Verizon get at first, so it remains to be seen. Since USCC does not have sufficient LTE coverage, none of the LTE/GSM devices (even from frequency-compatible carriers) are likely to appear on USCC. I hope you're not looking for anyone to guess how soon it will happen...
    I found the following and interesting read on topic. This is where I'm at, SG3 of wait until later in the year to see what/if USCC gets for WP8 Phones. Oh the drama.

    http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-574...ung-galaxy-s3/

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldog240 View Post
    Does anyone have any idea if USCC will get on board with Windows Phone 8?
    Is there any chance it will be in 2012 as these phones are supposed to be available later this year?
    I'm still not part of the smart phone world and from what I've researched it sounds like Windows Phones pretty much work right out of the box. (especially for a newbie) I'm not sure if that's the case for Android? (user friendly...)

    Hey Thanks!
    All signs point to "yes"

    http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2406483,00.asp

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigE View Post

    Thanks BigE!

    Sounds like just a matter of time until USCC has WP8 as part of their line up of the latest and greatest phones. It will be nice to have the choice going forward.

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    I see and hear a lot of people who think Android is inherantly difficult or daunting to use and it's frustrating. It's just as user friendly as anything else, you just have the option to get into customization if you want to. Just like your car, it's very user friendly until you hop under the hood with a socket set and pull the block apart.

    I look at it this way... If my mid-60's technophobe parents (who think 'text' is something that comes out of a typewriter) can pick up two Electrifys and start sending me media messages out of the blue, I think anyone can handle it. Now if you just happen to prefer Windows or iOS, that's a different discussion altogether.

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    A little reading for those interested in Window Phone 8 later this year.

    http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/4633...d-to-build-own

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    I have to say, Win Mobile is a VERY awesome interface. i'm surprised its not as popular as it should be. in reality, imo, the only thing apple has over MS are the huge selection of apps. the MS interface is incredible, its smooth, solid, and super user friendly.. i really hope win8 mobile comes out and blows everyone away.

    just a side note, this is a BIG year for all OSs.. Blackberry 10, iPhone LTE, and WM8 all coming out.. gonna be BIG!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ikalinin View Post
    I have to say, Win Mobile is a VERY awesome interface. i'm surprised its not as popular as it should be. in reality, imo, the only thing apple has over MS are the huge selection of apps. the MS interface is incredible, its smooth, solid, and super user friendly.. i really hope win8 mobile comes out and blows everyone away.

    just a side note, this is a BIG year for all OSs.. Blackberry 10, iPhone LTE, and WM8 all coming out.. gonna be BIG!!!
    Microsoft just does not know how to market its phone OS. Too bad. It is awesome. Having said that, I just ordered the Samsung Galaxy S 3.

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    USCC loves Samsung

    Samsung WP8 Phones

    http://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsu...gon-S4_id32806

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    With WP8 it is going to be an exciting year indeed...

    Hopefully your carrier comes-thru for you...even if they don't you can probably get one working from egay - I did with WP7...

    Good luck!

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