If VZW does remove my unlimited data in the future, I'll give T-Mo a shot.
|
|
|
|
|
I've got more phones than fingers
Exactly! It would be worse than the $2 bill payment fee.Originally Posted by taoman54
Verizon's 3G network. ............................................ AT&T's 3G network.
Verizon's 4G network.
I've climbed a cellphone tower
If VZW does remove my unlimited data in the future, I'll give T-Mo a shot.
Rooted Droid 4 with Jelly Bean 4.1.2, system version 98.72.18.XT894.Verizon.en.US
I charge forward recklessly, leaving chaos in my wake.
Boycott phones that lack microSD storage!
@silverfang1977
I've climbed a cellphone tower
It is my belief this is how Verizon will ultimately push people off their unlimited data plans. At some point in the future if you want to change/upgrade your device you will need to "change your Plan to one that we are currently offering at that time."If you change your device or receive a Service promotion, you may be required to change your Plan to one that we are currently offering at that time.
This was how they got me off of my $40 "1000 Anytime minute" voice plan and I lost my MOU (minutes of use) for data. I wanted to get a new phone and I had to "upgrade" to a Nationwide voice plan to do it.
I've got more phones than fingers
I don't think they will let people keep unlimited but so long
Post Machine
Sorry, but you are the one who is mistaken. The data feature is not part of the contract like voice plans.
Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2
If I'm annoyed and you're annoyed, does that make us a paranoid ??
Sarcasm is a fine art...
"Don't believe everything you think"
It's not a matter of if you win or lose, it's how you assign the blame
I've climbed a cellphone tower
I believe you are correct in that the contract is for a "line of service" only. But I believe newyork4me is also correct in that if Verizon were to remove/change your $30 unlimited data plan mid-contract then you could terminate your contract without an ETF since there would be a "material adverse effect on you." Do you agree?
My screen is bigger than yours
[QUOTE=veriztd;14852058]Sorry, but you are the one who is mistaken. The data feature is not part of the contract like voice .
See my post from earlier this morning. I sourced the VZW customer agreement. They can't change your data mid contract without repercussion.
I've got more phones than fingers
This is WRONG. Please stop posting entirely false information.
Exactly. The contract requires a subscriber to subscribe to "a line of service". However, the contract also protects the customer from VZW making any change to "the Service" which includes the minute plan, additional features, and any optional services.
I sourced it for everyone too, even prior to that; and, I emphasized the operative language (post #18). This is 100% correct. They cannot change your data mid-contract without waiving the ETF.See my post from earlier this morning. I sourced the VZW customer agreement. They can't change your data mid contract without repercussion.
The amount of armchair lawyering by some people here is amazing. It would be so helpful to everyone else trying to figure out what is actually the case if they left it to people who, you know, actually went to law school.
I've got more phones than fingers
Newyork, one problem is you're not explaining it very well. Everyone, including me, is assuming that things are "bilateral", ie 1) if I can't drop the data, vsw can't either; or 2) I can drop but so can vzw; or 3) vzw can't drop therefore I can't or 4) vzw can drop therefore I can.
But you are saying it is not bilateral, ie while under contract, vzw can change nothing but the user can, ie drop data.
I've got more phones than fingers
I thought when I said this in a earlier post:
that it was pretty self-explanatory. I sometimes forget that I'm not talking to lawyers, but I assumed that would have made it pretty clear.Your data, texting, and other optional services are all part of your Service which Verizon cannot change mid-contract without waving the ETF fee. Just because Verizon allows the end user to alter those features without violating the contract does NOT mean the contract isn't enforceable the other direction.
Anyway, no, the modifications to Service (plan, features, and optional services) are not bilateral. VZW can't change them on you, but you can change them on VZW.
I've climbed a cellphone tower
Highly unlikely. Don't forget that ROLLTIDE was the one with the secret friend at Verizon who is a "higher up" and told him that moving your SIM would automatically place you on the new family data share plan.
ROLLTIDE, aren't you an AT&T user? That's what your profile says.
I've got more phones than fingers
I think just a matter of time before vz plays hard ball to get everyone off unlimited.
I've got more phones than fingers
They could, but I don't really see the benefit to them to do so.
They are effectively charging $47.50/mo for unlimited data now (because you don't get an equipment subsidy anymore, worth about $17.50/mo), which is a pretty good amount. I think VZW would be happy to get this.
And, the people who do stay with unlimited data are probably the ones who it really matters to (hence why they are paying the higher effective cost). I'm sure VZW realizes they are the most likely to be vocal if it ever gets pulled.
So, realistically, it is very profitable for them to keep people on unlimited. Without paying subsidies, it is like VZW is getting another $90/mo from me in revenue (with 5 lines). And, not only is it profitable, but it keeps their PR in tact.
I've climbed a cellphone tower
I have and I understand what you are saying. However, I believe both veriztd and butthead007 are former or current Verizon employees (could be wrong about this) and they both are saying the data "feature" is not part of the contract. If so, I would like their opinion on what the consequences would be if Verizon changed/removed the unlimited data feature mid-contract. I'm sure you are correct that there would be "repercussions" but I would still like to hear their opinion.See my post from earlier this morning. I sourced the VZW customer agreement. They can't change your data mid contract without repercussion.
I've got more phones than fingers
Ok new york, so thanks. So realistically (or theoretically) it could be advantageous to be in contract? ie while not in contract they could raise price, throttle, adverse affect or whatever.
I realize it would make make no sense to for them to do anything and it would be impractical for them to selectively change non-contract accts.
Can you use the Nexus One on the Unlimited plan for $79/month?
Bookmarks