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    I vote for TMO and ATT to form some sort of joint gsm voice only network. Pretty minimal bandwidth requirements for legacy / fallback / dumbphones. Lots of refarming could result for both parties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hesster View Post
    My guess would be even longer than that. GPRS is still tenaciously hanging around, and look how long it took to kill off AMPS and TDMA on the CDMA carriers.
    They wanted to kill AMPS long before it was actually killed.
    They were made to support it by the FCC.

    AFAIK the FCC doesn't have any mandate that GSM carriers support EDGE for any period of time.
    I think that they are allowed to kill it tomorrow if they wanted to but obviously that means effectively turning off their voice network.

    I think this is the right move for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HardBall View Post
    They don't already have that right now? I'm surprised...

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    No they have DC-HSPA+ and EDGE, my question is if they would put a dual carrier of HSPA+ on PCS(1900)


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    Initially I think they're just going to do 10MHz and add extra carriers where it's possible and when it's needed. A lot of areas are 20MHz and less which means 1 1900MHz carrier for those places, permanently.
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    Jarrodpd,

    I really don't know about each specific market. I remember engadget a while ago had a map of the spectrum transfer from ATT to Tmobile and a bit before that, a link to a person who mapped out each major teleco's spectrum holdings by region.

    If you google for them I'm sure you can find out roughly where your area stands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnhere View Post
    I think it will be at least 5 years before 2g becomes completely non existent
    Even if it's 5 years at that point T-Mobiles footprint will drop dramatically unless they basically double the number of towers. From what I can tell the distance that 3G/4G travels from a cell site is roughly half that of GPRS/EDGE.

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    In five years hopefully tmo will have a good lte network in place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmobiley View Post
    T-Mobile is beginning to move customers off of 2G... http://www.tmonews.com/2012/07/tmobi...de-incentives/
    What if you rilly rilly like your 2gee phone?
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    One of my favorite 2g phones is the Nokia 5300. Great call quality

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    The experience I had recently was that there was no 2G coverage at all in a part of the Florida panhandle, only 3G. http://www.howardforums.com/showthre...nly-connection

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    This is all part of their network modernization plan similar to Sprint's Network Vision plan.

    They are modifying their network equipment to nearly 37k sites to enhance coverage, range and in-building penetration w/o actually having to build new sites. So 4GHSPA+ will expand and improve. In many areas the 4G coverage will be better and more widespread then the legacy 2G networks.

    This only applies to areas currently listed as 3G/4G.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny4G View Post
    This is all part of their network modernization plan similar to Sprint's Network Vision plan.

    They are modifying their network equipment to nearly 37k sites to enhance coverage, range and in-building penetration w/o actually having to build new sites. So 4GHSPA+ will expand and improve. In many areas the 4G coverage will be better and more widespread then the legacy 2G networks.

    This only applies to areas currently listed as 3G/4G.
    Do you know if they actually have 37k sites with HSPA+? I though they currently were around 35k, which implies some HSPA+ expansion (and would explain some of the ongoing rural buildouts).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kies View Post
    Initially I think they're just going to do 10MHz and add extra carriers where it's possible and when it's needed. A lot of areas are 20MHz and less which means 1 1900MHz carrier for those places, permanently.
    T-Mobile USA can use 4.2 and 4.4 slices to create a second carrier while the remainder being be good enough for GSM. I'm sure there are side effects for doing this, but they might as well give it try. Even then T-Mobile will likely have more AWS than PCS so there shouldn't be any real issues with being squeezed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greatgoogly View Post
    Even if it's 5 years at that point T-Mobiles footprint will drop dramatically unless they basically double the number of towers. From what I can tell the distance that 3G/4G travels from a cell site is roughly half that of GPRS/EDGE.
    It's been almost ten years for Verizon an they have patches of 1X, what does that say?

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    I noticed on my recent vacation that EDGE in places like Boston and Atlanta could be painfully slow. I presumed that PCS channels were being reallocated to UMTS.
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